Eco diesel engine failures

Eco diesel engine failures

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    Eco diesel engine failures

    On Sept 19, 2015 my 2015 Eco Diesel Blew Up. Just over 17,000 miles. I was about to do it's second oil change. First one was done by the dealer I bought the truck from. I was on a short trip at the time. Chrysler wanted to tow it a few miles to a local dealer. I didn't want a long distance ordeal so I had it towed 200 miles to the dealer I bought it from. The story is a long one and for this post I'm going to abbreviate it. After about a week the dealer told me I was probably looking at a new engine but that Chrysler had to authorize it (anything over $3,000). They pulled the engine without taking the cab off. They found a broken connecting rod, and disintegrated piston. They then said they would use the "70% Rule" This is where they estimate what it would take to repair the engine at the local dealer and if that cost is greater than 70% of the cost to replace it then they replace it. They blew right past the 70% value so then told me "again" a new engine. Another week goes by and Chrysler wants more pictures. More time goes by and I finally file a case with Chrysler Customer Care on October 14th. The same day the dealer tells me that Chrysler has approved a new engine and it is ordered. On October 16 I hear back from Chrysler Care saying that they would attempt to expedite the parts but that nothing was on order. I called the dealer with a WTF? They assured me that the parts were ordered that morning. I believe that to be true as I heard back from Chrysler Care a couple days later. So parts (long block, gaskets, and a few other things) were finally ordered roughly 28 days after the engine blew. As of today, Oct 26th, I have no ETA for the long block. The other loose parts are "in transit". Other people have ETA's that reach as far as December.

    Since the time the engine blew I've been combing this site to figure out just how many others are out there with blown up engines. I've been able to find 10 others. There may be more. I'm sure that all of us would like to hear from the other victims. If you're one of them please chime in with how it's going? Did Chrysler have any explanation on why it happened? And what assurances were you given that it wouldn't happen again? I'm pretty sure there are no answers to these questions....

    Here is the list of victims I've found:

    1) Marleene - 2014 - 14,290 miles - blew up on 8/30/2014
    2) Drdred - 20?? - 15,500 miles - blew up on 8/21/2015
    3) Hosse - 2015 - 10,000 miles - blew up on 9/29/2015
    4) SRFRacer42 - 2014 - 22,500 miles - blew up on 6/9/2015
    5) Pilot_alex - 2015 - 12,460 miles - blew up on approx. 6/14/2015
    6) Evansbc - 2014(?) - 22,000 miles - blew up approx. 6/??/2015
    7) RSZ978 - 20?? - 10,000 miles - didn't blow up, dealer discovered problem and stated engine needs replacing
    8) Jason Vaillancourt - 2014 - 9,200 miles - blew up on 10/7/2015
    9) BBJ - 2014 - 13,000 miles - didn't blow up, Chrysler wants the dealer to pull the pan and investigate
    10) BlGeco - 2014 - ??,??? miles - blew up 10/26/2015

    I believe there are about 7,000 members of this forum. If only eleven of us have blown up engines the percentage might be low. But how many real victims have there been?

    Chime In!

    Thanks
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    You can add me to the list. Blew 9/22 with 9400 miles.

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    2KR88 ,
    Welcome to the Forum. An interesting first post and sorry to hear. Please keep us posted.

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    Just a welcome with no engine failure.

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    Thanks for posting a very informative thread! I've been wondering about the numbers. In the year I've been here, I recall at least 3 or 4 more folks that are no longer on here. Welcome & keep up the great work!

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    As always, it seems as though if there's a defect or assembly problems they let loose at a fairly early age

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    Round the number up to a guess of 1000 blown engines I believe Ram over the past 2 years has sold over 100,000 and the blown engines so far have been all factory assembly issues not design flaws , the only design flaw that is a possible issue from my understanding is the valve stems sticking up dew to the EGR soot . If this post is intended to show a flawed engine designs personally I don't see it as of right now , but time will tell . Usually engine design flaws show up very quickly and with many , many failures, And I believe 1000 blown engines maybe on the high side of engine failures but we have no way of knowing for sure but that is still 1 percent.
    And so far the engine failures have been improperly tightened lower end bearings , or improperly tightened cam bolts.
    Now myself I read most of the forums for defects and Ford, Chevy, much worse, and even the brand new designed engine in the Toyota Tacoma is now having issues in their pre-runner , loosing oil pressure going up and down hills , they made the oil pan to small .
    But the 4/4 is not having any issues because they made the oil pan bigger on that model .
    As far as for myself right now I still couldn't be any happier with my decision to purchase my truck , but that could change if a catastrophic design flaw shows itself in the distant future. That's my 2 cents!!!!! I chimed in your welcome!!!!!!
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    2KR88, Welcome to the forum. Good luck with your engine replacement. It would be helpful if you update the list in your original post as victims chime-in. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2KR88 View Post
    On Sept 19, 2015 my 2015 Eco Diesel Blew Up. Just over 17,000 miles. I was about to do it's second oil change. First one was done by the dealer I bought the truck from. I was on a short trip at the time. Chrysler wanted to tow it a few miles to a local dealer. I didn't want a long distance ordeal so I had it towed 200 miles to the dealer I bought it from. The story is a long one and for this post I'm going to abbreviate it. After about a week the dealer told me I was probably looking at a new engine but that Chrysler had to authorize it (anything over $3,000). They pulled the engine without taking the cab off. They found a broken connecting rod, and disintegrated piston. They then said they would use the "70% Rule" This is where they estimate what it would take to repair the engine at the local dealer and if that cost is greater than 70% of the cost to replace it then they replace it. They blew right past the 70% value so then told me "again" a new engine. Another week goes by and Chrysler wants more pictures. More time goes by and I finally file a case with Chrysler Customer Care on October 14th. The same day the dealer tells me that Chrysler has approved a new engine and it is ordered. On October 16 I hear back from Chrysler Care saying that they would attempt to expedite the parts but that nothing was on order. I called the dealer with a WTF? They assured me that the parts were ordered that morning. I believe that to be true as I heard back from Chrysler Care a couple days later. So parts (long block, gaskets, and a few other things) were finally ordered roughly 28 days after the engine blew. As of today, Oct 26th, I have no ETA for the long block. The other loose parts are "in transit". Other people have ETA's that reach as far as December.

    Since the time the engine blew I've been combing this site to figure out just how many others are out there with blown up engines. I've been able to find 10 others. There may be more. I'm sure that all of us would like to hear from the other victims. If you're one of them please chime in with how it's going? Did Chrysler have any explanation on why it happened? And what assurances were you given that it wouldn't happen again? I'm pretty sure there are no answers to these questions....

    Here is the list of victims I've found:

    1) Marleene - 2014 - 14,290 miles - blew up on 8/30/2014
    2) Drdred - 20?? - 15,500 miles - blew up on 8/21/2015
    3) Hosse - 2015 - 10,000 miles - blew up on 9/29/2015
    4) SRFRacer42 - 2014 - 22,500 miles - blew up on 6/9/2015
    5) Pilot_alex - 2015 - 12,460 miles - blew up on approx. 6/14/2015
    6) Evansbc - 2014(?) - 22,000 miles - blew up approx. 6/??/2015
    7) RSZ978 - 20?? - 10,000 miles - didn't blow up, dealer discovered problem and stated engine needs replacing
    8) Jason Vaillancourt - 2014 - 9,200 miles - blew up on 10/7/2015
    9) BBJ - 2014 - 13,000 miles - didn't blow up, Chrysler wants the dealer to pull the pan and investigate
    10) BlGeco - 2014 - ??,??? miles - blew up 10/26/2015

    I believe there are about 7,000 members of this forum. If only eleven of us have blown up engines the percentage might be low. But how many real victims have there been?

    Chime In!

    Thanks
    Welcome to the forum ,sorry to hear about your engine failure as your first post ,very informative reading . You will find the guys and girls here are a great source for info .
    Please keep us updated on your progress
    Joel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haul N Grass View Post
    Round the number up to a guess of 1000 blown engines I believe Ram over the past 2 years has sold over 100,000 and the blown engines so far have been all factory assembly issues not design flaws , the only design flaw that is a possible issue from my understanding is the valve stems sticking up dew to the EGR soot . If this post is intended to show a flawed engine designs personally I don't see it as of right now , but time will tell . Usually engine design flaws show up very quickly and with many , many failures, And I believe 1000 blown engines maybe on the high side of engine failures but we have no way of knowing for sure but that is still 1 percent.
    And so far the engine failures have been improperly tightened lower end bearings , or improperly tightened cam bolts.
    Now myself I read most of the forums for defects and Ford, Chevy, much worse, and even the brand new designed engine in the Toyota Tacoma is now having issues in their pre-runner , loosing oil pressure going up and down hills , they made the oil pan to small .
    But the 4/4 is not having any issues because they made the oil pan bigger on that model .
    As far as for myself right now I still couldn't be any happier with my decision to purchase my truck , but that could change if a catastrophic design flaw shows itself in the distant future. That's my 2 cents!!!!! I chimed in your welcome!!!!!!
    I agree 100%. I think the engine is a solid design.
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