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    Yea I noticed that line too about the 150k miles... are trucks really that disposable these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by idoseadoo View Post
    Yea I noticed that line too about the 150k miles... are trucks really that disposable these days?

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    Pretty much all engines these days are designed with a 150k "expectancy". That doesnt mean that they expect all of them to fail by 150k, it means that they would expect some small percentage of them to have an issue by then, but that a huge majority would continue on without issue. It's also probably taking into account owner neglect and abuse. You could have some moron who never changes his oil make it to 150k.

    Don't tell me you think the ED was designed any better, lol.
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    Chevy is the only one who really figured out what these diesels are for. Its not heavy towing. 11,000+ lb tow ratings on these diesels are absolutely ridiculous unless you live in Florida or somewhere on the Gulf coast where the tallest hill is actually a bridge.

    The Duramax is the only one that seems to have its HP figures somewhat aligned with the towing capacity. I think a 278hp motor could probably tow 9300 lbs or whatever pretty well. 11,xxx lb out of a 250 or 260 hp Powerstoke or EcoD, HAHAHAHAH.

    Out here in the Rockies, the absolute max I would put behind these trucks would be 5000-7000 lbs. I know towing my 5500 GVWR trailer that there have been climbs where I have used as much as 300hp out of my Ecoboost to maintain 65mph. Mind you, this is in an 80mph zone so people are blowing by me 15-20 mph faster when I am doing 65. Getting bogged down to 45-50 because of a weak motor sounds terrible.
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    Seems like Ram was the first to figure out what they are for. Good economy in a smallish pickup. Ram didn't rate them at 10k towin. 14-18 is rated at most a little over 8k and if you have 3.55's a little under 8k.

    I wont pretend to know much about towing in mountains here in south texas, but you don't have to pull the steepest grades at the "MAX" posted "LIMIT" slow down, most people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAS View Post
    Seems like Ram was the first to figure out what they are for. Good economy in a smallish pickup. Ram didn't rate them at 10k towin. 14-18 is rated at most a little over 8k and if you have 3.55's a little under 8k.

    I wont pretend to know much about towing in mountains here in south texas, but you don't have to pull the steepest grades at the "MAX" posted "LIMIT" slow down, most people do.
    Well they seemed to have forgotten then, since they are rating this new ED at 12,560 or so.

    Did I not just say I am doing 15-20 mph below the limit? Let me know how uncomfortable things get when you are doing 45mph up some grade while people are blowing past you at 80-85. Its not fun. People are stupid and things could go bad very quickly with that kind of speed differential. I've seen cars(and a motorcycle) smack into the back of 18 wheelers around here because they didn't notice how fast they were coming up on them. The difference is that I don't tow a 60000 lb trailer that is 53 ft long.

    All I am saying is, if you want to tow with these diesels, don't kid yourself. Be realistic. If all you do is tow on flat ground then you probably can do 9000 lbs but start getting into the hills and mountains and you really need to dial it back. Its not safe to be going that slow for you or anyone else. Don't give me the "its not a race" crap.
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    I live in AZ and we have plenty of mountainous roads with 6-8% grades +, and I'm pulling my toyhauler at 7200+ lbs loaded up those hills, and also in UT & CO as well. There are times when I get down to 40-45 mph, I don't push it hard, watch my temps and get up the hill. I don't get nervous about people being behind me and I'll pull over and let folks by when I can. It isn't any different than following a semi truck up these same roads slowed down due to load weight and road grade! You drive for the conditions, if someone else wants to be impatient and reckless.., that's on them!
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    Big trucks used to really struggle up major mountain hills. Loaded it was not uncommon to see them geared down and doing like 30 mph.

    Today it seems the big rigs just have more power and can run in the 40's or more heavily loaded. Well, most Ecodiesels can also do that while towing heavy. Never should you expect to maintain top highway speeds on major climbs. Still, you can do big-rig traffic speeds and be safe in the crowd. The little 3.0 diesels are fine under tow that is appropriate for the 1/2 ton.
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    Yea GDE 3.92 31.9Ē tires SLT grill Iím normally climbing grades with TTs at 55 mph. Iím good with this. When 4 wheelers steam by at 65 & sometimes more in the hammer lane Iím not bothered. If itís a long 6 percent grade their is often 3 lanes with the semis in the truck lane going 40 or whatever.
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    Well looks like we finally get to see an actual running truck. I'm stoked! Not a Dodge fan but it was the only game in town until recently. Now we have some competition. Just in time too since I can't even drive my neutered truck on the highway anymore. Absolutely no power and crappy fuel mileage. I used to get 29 - 33 mpg now more like 17 - 24.
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    fuel tank less than 24 gallons? Uhg... Even with our 26 gallons, there were places that I was wishing I had a jug of fuel in the back, like down to a couple of gallons when filling up. You do not always get 30 miles to the gallon, aka, tow mode.

    5 1/2 gallon DEF tank. No big deal there.

    Engine brake a nice plus and I like the inline 6 cyl motor.

    But if it rides and has seats like my last truck, a 2011 Silverado, I would pass. The Ram 1500 is hands down very, very comfortable.
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