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This is a discussion on 2020 eco within the RAM 1500 Diesel General Discussion forums, part of the RAM 1500 EcoDiesel Forum category; I don't get this article. They keep calling it a 3rd generation Ecodiesel. How...the 14-18 trucks were the first generation... I have to say. I ...

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    I don't get this article. They keep calling it a 3rd generation Ecodiesel. How...the 14-18 trucks were the first generation...

    I have to say. I was very excited to see Rebel test mules and now that is confirmed. The new Rebel is also available without air suspension. I might need a new truck sooner than I thought.

    What a torque curve change.

    Biggest question is, what has been done to improve bottom end bearing durability? Sounds like a blank slate motor, not just a few tweaks. Hopefully that's an improvement.

    As for max towing, don't forget that the 5th generation truck already had big changes to start with. Changed to 6 lug axles, lighter unladen weight for increased payload and towing, and an available "max tow" package on 2wd only that uses a Dana Super 60 axle. I'd imagine the bragging rights for maximum towing on this new Ecodiesel are based on the 2wd max tow package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJL_57 View Post
    I don't get this article. They keep calling it a 3rd generation Ecodiesel. How...the 14-18 trucks were the first generation...

    I have to say. I was very excited to see Rebel test mules and now that is confirmed.

    What a torque curve change.

    Biggest question is, what has been done to improve bottom end bearing durability? Sounds like a blank slate motor, not just a few tweaks. Hopefully that's an improvement.

    As for max towing, don't forget that the 5th generation truck already had big changes to start with. Changed to 6 lug axles, lighter unladen weight for increased payload and towing, and an available "max tow" package on 2wd only that uses a Dana Super 60 axle. I'd imagine the bragging rights for maximum towing on this new Ecodiesel are based on the 2wd max tow package.

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    3rd gen. ecodiesel.

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    12,500 lb towing capacity? Doesn't help crap if they don't improve the cooling and don't have the payload capacity to match.

    However, if it is setup right I might be hooked ... again.

    I'm a sucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phprof View Post
    12,500 lb towing capacity? Doesn't help crap if they don't improve the cooling and don't have the payload capacity to match.

    However, if it is setup right I might be hooked ... again.

    I'm a sucker.
    I'm in the same boat...snookered again....and again....damn it, I love trucks......
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    I see one in my future very soon..... love the 19' 5th gen platform, but would love to be back in an ecodiesel....

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    Wife's been saying that maybe we should upgrade to a 2500. With the tow rating on the 2020 ED, we wouldn't need the 2500 now. If only I could win the lottery and not be concerned with how much value my 17 has lost as a trade in. Or how much money I still owe on it.
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    YES!

    As for that 3rd Generation thing, seem to remember there was an Ecodiesel that came out in the Jeep before the 1500 Ram. It used a slightly different oil filter and I think it had slightly different specs in output. Not sure there. Just guessing that could maybe be the first generation. If so than the 2020 would be the third.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phprof View Post
    12,500 lb towing capacity? Doesn't help crap if they don't improve the cooling and don't have the payload capacity to match.

    However, if it is setup right I might be hooked ... again.

    I'm a sucker.
    I'm assuming here - and we know what that means - that the 2020 EcoD got the increased tow rating BECAUSE of the improved cooling. The current generation was restricted not because of the truck frame, chassis, etc but because of the poor cooling system in our EcoD engine bay. The Hemi version of our truck had much higher tow ratings.

    Count me as a sucker, too. This news changes my thinking on the long term future of my current truck (tho with the GDE tune I'm within 10 lb/ft of torque of the new engine though without the improved cooling and changes to the turbo, etc.)


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    Pretty sure im not in the market, going to keep driving my '15 till it doesn't meet my needs any more. If I was in the market for a new one, id sure be looking at the new ram and the GM 3.0. Would love to hear more about what improvements they have made to the internals of the motor etc. to fix existing issues.
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