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    The point I would make is buy from a large brand with deep pockets that has a reputation to protect and will stand behind the fuel they sell. If you get a bad tank of fuel from one of them you will have a much better chance of getting any damage you experienced covered by the seller. The fact they they are a large organization selling lots of fuel also means they very likely have procedures in place to ensure they do not deliver bad fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howie12 View Post
    Ziggy,

    You seem to be contradicting yourself since you said that fuel for Chevron stations from non Chevron refineries came from different tanks with different chemicals.
    Not contradicting, just not as clear as I could have been. There are many fuel trucks loading up at the refineries. So they're not loading up from small tanks since they're loading 7400 gallons (diesel) to 8400 gallons (gasoline) or even more in the tri-axle trailers. They are getting the product from those huge tanks that you see as you're driving down the road. The Chevron tanks I was referring to are small 100 gallon tanks that are near the pumps and marked with Chevron logos. So, the fuel came out of the same tanks. The fuel just had Chevron's chemicals added to it as it made its way to the nozzle.

    This was back in the late 90s, so I don't know if things are the same now and other corporations may have their tanks lined up with their chemicals waiting to get added to the gasoline. Or they might not be as conspicuous.

    And as HNG pointed out, red dye for off-road use. Same thing: Just push the correct button(s) and the refinery would mix in the correct stuff.

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    gasoline? probably yes, the additives help via detergents and that hey tier one label for a reason I guess. Diesel? I think it's more about the cetane and keeping water out of it than anything else. for me, I try to pick the place with the dirtiest nozzle, the most grunge on the concrete pad, and the most activity.

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    Up till my last 2 tanks I have bought almost all of my fuel from a SAM's club. I now split it between them and a new QT a block away from my office. No gripes with either. I have seen 1 new shell station that advertise premium diesel and ill probably try it if I ever pass by there and need fuel, but its in an area I don't often travel and when I do I usually have somewhere to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
    gasoline? probably yes, the additives help via detergents and that hey tier one label for a reason I guess. Diesel? I think it's more about the cetane and keeping water out of it than anything else. for me, I try to pick the place with the dirtiest nozzle, the most grunge on the concrete pad, and the most activity.
    Good advice! I suppose the closer to a major road or interstate is likely to have fresher diesel as well. I remember getting my hands all nasty fueling tractors and other equipment on my dad's vineyard. I keep a box of nitrile gloves in the truck for fueling so I don't leave smelling of diesel from those grungy nozzles .
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    Want to Costco today and saw they had a gas station on their lot. Asked which attendant had been there the longest. Keep in mind in Oregon we have lots of attendants at gas stations because a stupid state law prohibits people from pumping their own gas. Fortunately diesels and motorcycles are exempt. Back to the attendants...Matt had been there a few years. I asked how frequently their diesel tanks are filled. He said at least twice weekly because they are only 30,000 gallons. They offer “Top Tier” diesel and the additive is administered on site. They also guarantee a maximum of 5% bio-diesel. Their price is $.10 less than the closest branded station in town and 20-30 cents less than most. Since Costco is only 5 min from home it makes sense for me.
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    In general, the fuel sitting in the large storage tanks is all the same. Usually isolated by octane or cetane ratings and which bio product is used for the end application.

    The additives, for both gas and diesel, are either feed into the line as the tanker is filling or added to the tanker sometime during the filling operation. Additives are usually specific to the station brand but probably not all that different across the multiple brands. All fuels add detergents, antifoams, stabilizers, and antibacterial/antifungal products. The amount and type is what is specified by Shell, Mobile, BP.....

    Best recommendation is to fill from a station that has a lot of tank turns. If you find one brand doesn't work as well, then don't go back there.

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    For what it's worth, as of this morning in the Sacramento area, diesel prices range from $3.53 to $4.49 (per Gas Buddy - a useful iPhone app). The lowest priced "big name" retailers, e.g., Shell, Chevron, Texaco and ARCO are $3.69 cash price. But, if you shop at Safeway/VONS (CA grocers) you can get up to $.20 off/gallon at Chevron/Texaco and up to $1.00 off/gallon if your Safeway/VONS has a gas station (up to 25 gallons). Safeway/VONS and most of the major retailers are $.10 more for credit. So for cash and few grocery purchases, you can get diesel at Chevron or Texaco for $3.49. I would guess with other loyalty programs there is a similar savings or price differential.

    One thing I do though, is always fill up in Nevada at Sinclair before coming home from a weekend in Reno - prices "over the hill" are at a minimum $.40 less per gallon. Yes, I know, CA has more taxes on fuel.

    We only have four refineries in the San Francisco Bay Area (need access to deep water) https://ww2.energy.ca.gov/almanac/pe...efineries.html and dozens of different branded stations, so there must be some overlap between stations, i.e., the independents get their fuel from the Big Guys. I may be wrong, feel free to let me know if I am!
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    Dang paid $2.51 for Chevron 2 days ago. I do think California requires a much high Cetane number overall then other states...min 40 here. Really is sad IMO how the most beautiful state in the Union taxes the mess out of it's working residents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawclan5 View Post
    Dang paid $2.51 for Chevron 2 days ago. I do think California requires a much high Cetane number overall then other states...min 40 here. Really is sad IMO how the most beautiful state in the Union taxes the mess out of it's working residents.
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