Branded diesel any better than “brand X?”

Branded diesel any better than “brand X?”

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    Branded diesel any better than “brand X?”

    Without regard to winter mix or bio blend etc. AND assuming the fuel is fresh, is there any difference between branded (Chevron, Shell, 76, BP, Mobil, ARCO, Texaco) and all the others?

    I ask because there are stations in my area that are significantly less expensive such as “Space Age” and “Fred Meyer” and “Astro”

    I’m seeking facts vs opinions. Thanks in advance.
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    Lots of shells and space ages in oregon sell a b20 blend at a lower cost. Ive had good luck running them but my fuel economy does run about 1-1.5mpg lower running it. Not sure on the others since I dont live on your side of the state. One thing I learned years ago is to watch and see if locals like a gas station, if they dont there is usually a reason why.

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    I buy mostly Costco fuel (both diesel and gas). I feel like they go through so much its gotta be fairly fresh, it's always like 20-30 cents cheaper than anywhere else, and it meets "TOP TIER" requirements (whatever those are). I bought some expensive ass diesel at a Shell in Longview, Wa because I was super low and it was the first place I came to. It pumped super slow (I now assume the pump's filter was pretty plugged) so I got distracted because it was taking so long and when I did regain my focus, the auto shutoff had failed and it was pumping down the side of the truck all over the ground. I should have known....I do now. I also try to go over to Oregon now so they pump it for me.

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    I ran across this video. It seems mostly like a commercial for a specific brand but still learned something about injectors

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    Once upon a time, I drove a tanker and would fill up the tank(s) at the refinery and deliver the fuel to the fuel stations. Sometimes I would load up at the Conoco refinery and deliver to the same stations that I would deliver Citgo fuel to. Sometimes I would deliver Conoco fuel to Citgo stations and vice-versa. Now, this was a long time ago so I don't remember if the fuel I picked up at the Chevron refinery went to places other than Chevron. But I can tell you that there were smaller Chevron tanks at the other refineries so that when we were picking up at other refineries for Chevron their chemicals could get mixed in.

    So, yeah, it all comes from the same place(s). Whether it's delivered to branded fuel stations or convenience stores. Yup. All the same.
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    Ziggy... It’s still the same , or at least getting fuel from port of Tampa, Basically all same fuel only additive packages added while tanking up depending on where it drops . This also includes adding red dye for off road use ...

    Any how unfortunately Exxon/ Mobile could have learned and saved soo much money from our forum members that additives are just a waste of money and not required or needed from the manufacturers opinions....Someone needs to let Exxon know !!!!
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    Used to buy gasoline at a place called "Arts Gas". Asked him more than once what kind of gas it was. He told me all the branded trucks get the their gas from the same depot. His was a universal brand as they all were back then. His was cheaper because he did not have to pay a royalty to a major brand for the name. Years later I read there was legislation to stop that and restrict fuel sales to only the major brand names paying the local governments for the right. Art went out of business.

    Occasionally I drive past the Tampa Ship docks and look at the major fuel storage depot there. I see various branded trucks entering and leaving the same place. My take is there are only a couple refinery owners and they all supply fuel. You take it, add your additive or ethanol and the truck goes on it's delivery schedule.
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    Lifted the below from a different forum...in JAX all tankers at the port 'splash fill' unique branded additives per manufacturer. One could get additives at a generic store depending on where else the truck goes.

    Chevron is great in both my ED and 7.3. A Sunoco South of here runs 'premium diesel' where tons of logging trucks fill. Turnover at a busy station is equally important IMO.

    BP (Amoco branded), 51;
    Countrymark fuels Diesel-R, 50
    Chevron, 49; or 51 with Techron D labels in select markets
    ConocoPhillips through the 76 stations (California) 47-53
    PetroCanada, 47-51
    BP (Powerblend 47, otherwise 40-42)
    Shell, 46;
    Sinclair, 46;
    Sunoco Gold, 45 (often +1-5) Sunoco regular is usually 40.
    Exxon/Mobile, 43-46
    Holiday Stations, 40-43
    HESS, 40-42, can be up to 45.
    Husky, 40 + diesel Max additives raise another 1-3 from there (41-45 max)
    Love's: 40
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    Valero: 40
    Sheetz: 40
    Flying J, 40
    Wawa, 40
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    Good info! Thank you all. That video reminded me of chemistry class in HS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrivingZiggy View Post
    Once upon a time, I drove a tanker and would fill up the tank(s) at the refinery and deliver the fuel to the fuel stations. Sometimes I would load up at the Conoco refinery and deliver to the same stations that I would deliver Citgo fuel to. Sometimes I would deliver Conoco fuel to Citgo stations and vice-versa. Now, this was a long time ago so I don't remember if the fuel I picked up at the Chevron refinery went to places other than Chevron. But I can tell you that there were smaller Chevron tanks at the other refineries so that when we were picking up at other refineries for Chevron their chemicals could get mixed in.

    So, yeah, it all comes from the same place(s). Whether it's delivered to branded fuel stations or convenience stores. Yup. All the same.
    Ziggy,

    You seem to be contradicting yourself since you said that fuel for Chevron stations from non Chevron refineries came from different tanks with different chemicals.

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