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    I appreciate the advice I've received here. The dealer has had my truck for about four weeks with no ETA on when the engine replacement would be completed. They're one of the largest dealers in CA and only have a single diesel technician, that is apparently always slammed.

    This past Saturday the wife and I loaded up our newborn and decided to pay them a visit. Long story short, there were some good labor day rebates on the 2019 Rams and given the circumstances of my ED purchase and engine failure less than a year after purchase, they offered me above top dollar on the trade-in. I loved my ED, but it's apparent that the emissions equipment has a strangle-hold on the engine, coupled with the low-end failure, solo diesel tech, expensive engine replacement (out of warranty) and the 5.7 Hemi lower TCO. I chose a small short-term financial hit in favor a (potential) long-term reward.

    I heavily weighed in on the Cummins option, but it's very expensive and I don't tow enough to justify the excess cost.

    Here's the new 2019 Ram 1500 BigHorn that's now in my driveway-

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    Congrats on the new truck and I wish you the best of luck,

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    Well the worse the Hemi will do is the lifters might act up eventually, needle bearings fail and some eat into cam. And some will do intermittent snapping on start up, like my 2018. Mine has done it since new basically have 46k km on it now, and it's not exhaust manifold bolts because it's only 2 seconds of so. But neither of these will leave you stranded on the side of the highway. Needle bearing issue is usually high mileage and throws a misfire code but still runs. I've heard engines being warrantied as late as the 2016 model year.

    Anyways congrats on the new truck. Just keep good oil in it and don't go by the maintenance minder with the conventional 5w20 that comes in the things. 10k miles is wayyyy too long, 6k max IMO and even that is pushing it. IMO all motors have their issues no matter what the brand. The ED is a very fine engine just the emissions systems is the bane of any moderns diesels existence these days. All time without your vehicles and parts availability is a good reason to trade. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhengisT View Post
    I appreciate the advice I've received here. The dealer has had my truck for about four weeks with no ETA on when the engine replacement would be completed. They're one of the largest dealers in CA and only have a single diesel technician, that is apparently always slammed.

    This past Saturday the wife and I loaded up our newborn and decided to pay them a visit. Long story short, there were some good labor day rebates on the 2019 Rams and given the circumstances of my ED purchase and engine failure less than a year after purchase, they offered me above top dollar on the trade-in. I loved my ED, but it's apparent that the emissions equipment has a strangle-hold on the engine, coupled with the low-end failure, solo diesel tech, expensive engine replacement (out of warranty) and the 5.7 Hemi lower TCO. I chose a small short-term financial hit in favor a (potential) long-term reward.

    I heavily weighed in on the Cummins option, but it's very expensive and I don't tow enough to justify the excess cost.

    Here's the new 2019 Ram 1500 BigHorn that's now in my driveway-

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    Perform an oil change after 1000 miles (this will remove all the break in material) and run pure synthetic oil of your choice.
    I have done this on the last 3 Hemi's I've owned and never had any problems.
    The known issues are timing chain wear due to MDS and the aforementioned lifters (though much less prevalent).
    The Hemi is easy to modify if you are wanting more speed too :-)

    edit: consider installing a catch can for the PCV system / crankcase breather. It won't void anything on your warranty and will keep the top end much cleaner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhengisT View Post
    I appreciate the advice I've received here. The dealer has had my truck for about four weeks with no ETA on when the engine replacement would be completed. They're one of the largest dealers in CA and only have a single diesel technician, that is apparently always slammed.

    This past Saturday the wife and I loaded up our newborn and decided to pay them a visit. Long story short, there were some good labor day rebates on the 2019 Rams and given the circumstances of my ED purchase and engine failure less than a year after purchase, they offered me above top dollar on the trade-in. I loved my ED, but it's apparent that the emissions equipment has a strangle-hold on the engine, coupled with the low-end failure, solo diesel tech, expensive engine replacement (out of warranty) and the 5.7 Hemi lower TCO. I chose a small short-term financial hit in favor a (potential) long-term reward.

    I heavily weighed in on the Cummins option, but it's very expensive and I don't tow enough to justify the excess cost.

    Here's the new 2019 Ram 1500 BigHorn that's now in my driveway-

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    Hemis are great motors, my Dodge magnum ran perfectly with almost 400,000 miles, my last Ram, also with almost 300,000 miles. Still, I wouldn't trade my tuned ED for a hemi. Beautiful Ram!
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    the lack of quality and expedited servicing options is a good reason.

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    Well as usual the oil flows quicker in the winter down south. And I'm sure you hear of much less issues with the Hemi in USA vs Canada. I've heard some driving by making some god awful sounds. I'm not sure if the Gen 3 is a 300k mile motor like previous generations. A lot of them end up snapping the most rear bolts on the exhaust manifold here as well. Pretty sure the cam and lifters get awful loud with the miles and wear. I think you can have enough confidence in the motor of the new truck. I'm trying an additive in this one Zmax seems to have quieted things up. Don't laugh too hard, but in my opinion it isn't snake oil. Some new Hemis are quiet and stay quiet, others do the snappy start up from new. Dodge saved 2 cents on the lifters.

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    Sometimes it gets old fighting and fighting disappointments. Sure understand.

    Glad it is over for you.
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    Hemi aside. The 2019 new design is a darn nice truck. Congrats and enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEIECO View Post
    Well as usual the oil flows quicker in the winter down south. And I'm sure you hear of much less issues with the Hemi in USA vs Canada. I've heard some driving by making some god awful sounds. I'm not sure if the Gen 3 is a 300k mile motor like previous generations. A lot of them end up snapping the most rear bolts on the exhaust manifold here as well. Pretty sure the cam and lifters get awful loud with the miles and wear. I think you can have enough confidence in the motor of the new truck. I'm trying an additive in this one Zmax seems to have quieted things up. Don't laugh too hard, but in my opinion it isn't snake oil. Some new Hemis are quiet and stay quiet, others do the snappy start up from new. Dodge saved 2 cents on the lifters.
    the lifters aren't the problem, it's excessive lash in the valve train. A few owners have installed slightly longer than stock pushrods to quiet the issue, some just live with it (it doesn't effect longevity).
    I was able to use the stock length on my build with no issues.
    Just don't go with thicker than recommended oil or you'll have issues with the cam phaser...
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