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    How big is your Bass Boat? I have a 18.5 Aluminum (basically fish/sky style) which I tow regularly. Never had a problem or even come close to overheating. My Truck is also Stock - and have not done the AEM yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namretsud View Post
    Why are you listing your mileage in kms if you live in Florida? Just curious. Love the Ecodiesels.
    Demonstrating support for our Canadian friends...and the km number just seems more impressive...
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    Quote Originally Posted by phprof View Post
    One should never have to go to a tune to fix a manufactures equipment. Never. FCA owes you a new, working truck.
    I've heard this argument a few times, and I don't really get it. It's common knowledge that FCA is hamstrung by EPA requirements and it's these requirements that often kill the modern diesel. Sure the truck will work without it, but for how long? How many erroneous CEL's will you tolerate due to stringent EPA standards?

    It's quite simple actually. Your truck is a huge investment, at least it was for me. Why not give it the best possible care possible which includes a clean running ECM tune?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupelo View Post
    How big is your Bass Boat? I have a 18.5 Aluminum (basically fish/sky style) which I tow regularly. Never had a problem or even come close to overheating. My Truck is also Stock - and have not done the AEM yet.
    Nice shark...JK. You can't be towing more than 3500lbs? Our truck would not even know it is back there...pulled 7,500lbs at 70 in 90* Florida w/o issue....she is stout off the line too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawclan5 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by namretsud View Post
    Why are you listing your mileage in kms if you live in Florida? Just curious. Love the Ecodiesels.
    Demonstrating support for our Canadian friends...and the km number just seems more impressive...<img src="https://www.ram1500diesel.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.png" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
    Haha good one.. A local junk yard owner always prices stuff in Usd. Asked him why.. He said price is lower in USD so its always more attractive to the buyer even though they pay in Cad.
    Theory validated none the less. &#x1f601;
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    If you bought it from. rAM dealer I’d work em hard for some preventative maintenance services free of charge. Oil changes for life, fuel filter changes for life, transfer case fluid changes for life, etc. make a list and a demand or buy it back at full value then go buy a 2017 or newer to avoid the FCA recall and ass GDE. Best of luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter View Post
    I've heard this argument a few times, and I don't really get it. It's common knowledge that FCA is hamstrung by EPA requirements and it's these requirements that often kill the modern diesel. Sure the truck will work without it, but for how long? How many erroneous CEL's will you tolerate due to stringent EPA standards?

    It's quite simple actually. Your truck is a huge investment, at least it was for me. Why not give it the best possible care possible which includes a clean running ECM tune?
    Cummins 6.7L, Duramax 2.8L, Duramax 6.6L, Powerstroke 7.3L and 6.7L all use very similar emission control strategies and some use very high tech friction reduction materials. Not nearly the same problems as the 2nd Gen 3.0L VM Mortori.

    FCA rushed it. There is a series of problems they won't publicly talk about with random failures. They are just holding out until all the warranties expire. It's happened before. Ford 3-valve. Chevy blown heads. Others.

    With this many problems consistently affect this one owner they owe him a refund of some reasonable level or actually fix the truck. Durability is assumed with something as expensive as a entry level house.
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    OP - I read your post twice to make sure I didnt miss something. I'm sorry but I just don't think three mechanical events over 52K miles is necessarily considered "incredibly unreliable". If it were me, the only thing I be altogether angry about is the time it takes your dealer to complete the repairs, which is likely a combo of waiting for parts and taking their time. I assume they provided a suitable loaner vehicle during the breakdowns, so that you could still tow your boat, etc, If not, I'd complain about that. But otherwise, it sounds like your dealer is pretty good, especially in comparison to some other stories floating around the forum.

    You note you had your first regen, which burned a hole in your intake. First, that was absolutely NOT your first regen so I'm betting thats not the case...but I'd be very curious how long after engine replacement did that failure happen, and also how long after that particular repair did they do the AEM? I'd bet the failed EGR and that intake melting are related, possibly the same problem, but perhaps misdiagnosed the first time. If I'm right, (which is certainly unlikely!) that really means just two failures. Lastly, you can't count the AEM effect on performance as a reliability issue. (Well, at least not yet)

    Obviously our perspectives are different, but I just don't classify your truck as "incredibly unreliable".

    If you ever get so disgusted with your Laramie, please let me know...I'd be interested!
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    Quote Originally Posted by phprof View Post
    Cummins 6.7L, Duramax 2.8L, Duramax 6.6L, Powerstroke 7.3L and 6.7L all use very similar emission control strategies and some use very high tech friction reduction materials. Not nearly the same problems as the 2nd Gen 3.0L VM Mortori.

    FCA rushed it. There is a series of problems they won't publicly talk about with random failures. They are just holding out until all the warranties expire. It's happened before. Ford 3-valve. Chevy blown heads. Others.

    With this many problems consistently affect this one owner they owe him a refund of some reasonable level or actually fix the truck. Durability is assumed with something as expensive as a entry level house.
    My bet is if there were not tuning options and ways to delete diesel pickups that there wouldn't be no diesel craze like there is and with the 07-08 advent of DPF etc. the diesel passenger vehicle market would have all but died.

    Pretty much if your not open to tuning you should have bought a gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupelo View Post
    How big is your Bass Boat? I have a 18.5 Aluminum (basically fish/sky style) which I tow regularly. Never had a problem or even come close to overheating. My Truck is also Stock - and have not done the AEM yet.
    Don't do the AEM until FCA comes up with money and extended warranty such as our southern brothers are getting. My dealer called wanting me to come and get the new tune and I told them to stuff it until FCA Canada treats us like the US.
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