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This is a discussion on recommendations - new rear suspension for towing within the RAM 1500 Diesel Suspension - Chassis forums, part of the RAM 1500 Diesel Garage - RAM 1500 Diesel Mechanics Corner category; Originally Posted by SavagePatch A set of Timber Grove Airbags and a pair of Fox 2.0 shocks. The Timber Groves are an easy bolt on ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavagePatch View Post
    A set of Timber Grove Airbags and a pair of Fox 2.0 shocks.

    The Timber Groves are an easy bolt on installation while the Fox 2.0's are a little more complicated and require you to remove the wheel well liners.
    Also, as previously recommended, get a good Weight Distribution Hitch. I use and recommend the Andersen WDH.

    (I actually just received the updated version in the mail, gonna try it out in two weeks(see pics))
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAS View Post
    Trailer has two 7k lb axles he’s not towing 14k.
    Still quite a load.

    I can be such an idiot at times lol.
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    That's a lot of weight. you have to be approaching 9k. Moving the tractor forward even with the WDH will still overload the rear axle rating of 3900 lbs.

    Finding the actual tongue weight would be your best bet , do you have Cat Scales anywhere near you? Putting it on the scales would give you real numbers to work with.

    The other factor I would be concerned with is speed and overheating the rear axle bearings. ( and stopping ) If it's local back roads that shouldn't be a problem, but if your getting up to 45 - 50 mph it might be an issue.

    I sometimes borrow my friends Mahindra with a loader bucket AND a backhoe. It has to be moved all the way forward to get the ramp gate up. No WDH.
    Like you said, it tows ok but I only go about 3 miles on a little travelled back road so I can keep my speed to about 25 -30 mph.

    My Timber Grove airbags keep the truck level but I know that my rear axle weight has to be pretty high.

    Good luck, go slow.
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    Thanks, my trip would be 30 miles one way and I can easily keep the speed down on these roads. I do want to run it through the scales when I make the trip as there is one not far from where I would be going. I will update the thread then. I do believe this would be touching 9,000 pound load. Trailer has electric brakes as well.

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    I think a 14k trailer is heavier than you expect and you'll be nearing 10k loaded.

    I've pulled 8900# with a WDH and it did well.
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    Tractor data lists 7,227 lbs for the tractor and loader. Not sure what rotary cutter you have but winged it at 850 lbs and found a weight for a pipe top 18'x83" pipe top 14k gvwr bumper pull of 2,095 lbs not including ramps or chains or a spare is 10,172. That doesn't include fuel either. Especially for 30 miles on backroads it wouldn't bother me, but it all adds up rather quickly. 15% tongue weight on that is 1,525 lbs. If you have it all they way up to the front you probably have more than that.

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    ill need a 2020 model with the 12,000 + lb tow rating!

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    Anything other than a TT/TH travel trailer toy hauler you only need 10 percent tongue weight. IE 10k trailer is 1,000 pounds on your receiver. Our factory receivers are rated to 1,100 plus 10 percent or 1,210 TW tongue weight with WDH as the most recent 4th gen listing per Ram. When I weighed a 9,100 pound dry TT with my spare behind the axle & tailgate on using the Andersen WDH I had 3,300 on the steer & 4,300 on the drive axle. I had adjusted my WDH to 1,100 pounds TW IE 12.0 percent. It towed well but done over I would relocate the spare & tailgate and adjust it to keep 12 percent only with more weight on the trailer axles, a little more on the steer axle and less on my drive axle.

    That was a 36’ ball to bumper 3 slide unit. I took it over 1,000 miles and over 6 percent grades. Lol and became an even bigger fan of the GDE turbo brake, the factory TBC trailer brake controller and my axle to frame air bags.

    I would suggest limiting your sustained rpm towing to 3k in order to keep your temps under control. Limit your coolant temp to 244 and oil temp to 266 in order to avoid derate. (The computer pulling fuel & timing)
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    Airstream, TT, Boat, transporter. Factory receiver 1,290/12k (w WDH) factory brake controller tow mirrors & hitch camera. No sway WDH, Andersen Rapid adjust hitch, Turnover ball GN hitch w 5er adapter, Axle to frame air bags, GDE tune w turbo brake, SLT Grill, 275/55/20 XL load tires, Max ED tow rating 9,200, Combined axle rating 7,800, Max RAM 1500 CVWR 15,950, truck with me & 3 hitchs axle weights steer 3,340 drive 2,560

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