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ZF 8HP plastic transmission pan differences

This is a discussion on ZF 8HP plastic transmission pan differences within the RAM 1500 Diesel Transmission forums, part of the RAM 1500 Diesel Garage - RAM 1500 Diesel Mechanics Corner category; I'm with rottenron on price being an issue. I replaced mine at about 170,000 kms and got an OEM pan pretty cheap. It's an issue ...

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    I'm with rottenron on price being an issue. I replaced mine at about 170,000 kms and got an OEM pan pretty cheap. It's an issue of price and function. The OEM pan doesn't have a replaceable filter, but the number of magnet locations were more than some aftermarket I looked at. Let's be honest, unless you are a frequent changer who hot shots and put on plenty of mileage thus changes, you aren't going to be swapping this pan out very frequently. Most of the pans I looked at had comparable volume but some were deeper(heat problems, not me), all fit, so I went with OEM at a cheap price. Will change in another 170,000. To each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rottenron View Post
    Not trying to start a who's right or wrong issue on the internet, but both of these are exactly the same other than where they are made. Identical. But hey, buy the more expensive one if you want, it's your money, and that's certainly what FCA wants you to do.
    PA66-30 vs PA66-35 is identical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brokedownbutgood View Post
    PA66-30 vs PA66-35 is identical?
    this is what this whole thread is implying .
    personally I think it is possible , in the 70's and 80's I saw a lot of identical parts,
    for ford and mercury , priced higher for mercury ,
    -capri parts more expensive than Mustang ,
    -ford torino<=> mercury Montego
    -Ford Granada <=>Mercury Monarch
    -Ford Pinto<=>Mercury Bobcat
    -Ford Maverick<=>Mercury Comet
    etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brokedownbutgood View Post
    PA66-30 vs PA66-35 is identical?
    Yes, they are identical. You can order them by part number, 68233701AA (less expensive) 68225344AA (more expensive for the identical piece made in a different country)
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddyg519 View Post
    ok so selected HP70 from dormans website and it says it wont fit. you are saying its identical?
    I checked Dorman part finder for the correct number for my 1500 with 8HP70. Dorman P/N 265-850 is the number that comes up, so a slightly different P/N than previously mentioned. It also shows a cross reference with P/Ns 68225344AA and 68233701AA so that would indicate to me that the OP is correct, the parts are interchangeable. BUT not unexpectedly the German part is more expensive, cost of manufacture in Germany plus import and shipping likely account for the dollar difference. One advantage of the Dorman is the filter is replaceable.

    https://www.dormanproducts.com/gsear...ord&q=265-850F

    This part is a fit for your vehicle: 2015 > Ram > 1500 > Transmission Pan
    Application: 8 Speed Trans. > Automatic Trans. > 8HP70 Trans.

    OE Numbers
    DIRECT OE CROSS
    68225344AA
    CHRYSLER
    68233701AA
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    Anyone using the PPE pan? I’m at 40,000 miles mostly highway and not towing. Also, has anyone had issues with the plastic pan? Looks like it could be an issue in snow or off-road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikesArmy View Post
    Anyone using the PPE pan? I’m at 40,000 miles mostly highway and not towing. Also, has anyone had issues with the plastic pan? Looks like it could be an issue in snow or off-road.
    You have at least another 60,000 miles before even considering changing based on your use.

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    I ordered a PPE pan, and when it came in it looked like somebody had nudged it during the machining process, which meant the holes for the filter bolts didn't line up with the filter. I got them to send me a new filter and they said to drill out the holes in the filter until it fit, and after I had done that, I wasn't comfortable installing it at all.
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    I have the PPE pan. I changed the fluid at 100k then at 200k wanted to change the fluid & filter and there were none of the plastic filterpans with changeable filters yet so I bought the PPE pan. Short of a Transporter or Hot Shot use I probably would suggest the lower cost stock looking filterpans with changeable filters. If you change the fluid at every 100k & filter at say 200k & 400k And well you don’t even have the truck anymore at 400k how does it warrant the PPE. Next is 100k fluid & 200k filter a reasonable or sufficient service interval. Well I’m at 570k towing TT/THs & occasionally boats commercially and it’s worked fine for me as in repairs. FWIW I do have the GDE trans tune which may help trans & motor longevity and am informed enough to faithfully use the tow haul button.
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    PPE pan here. Installed at 70k and the fluid tested good. Went PPE for the serviceable filter. After the 2nd filter change you'll be money ahead over the plastic pans.

    The extra fluid capacity is a plus, along with the better heat dissipation of the finned aluminum over plastic. No worries about road debris taking out the PPE pan, very well made.
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