ZF 8HP plastic transmission pan differences

ZF 8HP plastic transmission pan differences

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    ZF 8HP plastic transmission pan differences

    Hello all. I am currently looking to buy a replacement pan with filter for my first transmission service. I have noticed all sorts of pans available on the internet that more or less all look the same for huge price spreads starting at $95 and up too $275. I noticed mopar has a USA made version that they claim is for the 8HP40/45 used in 3.6L V6 cars & trucks and those can be had for $100 all day long with the bolt kit. The part # for our truck's 8HP70 is 68225344AA and is sourced from Germany and can be had for about $185 with bolts. They look identical in photographs! Both made by Filtran. Does anybody know what the differences are and are they interchangeable? I might assume that our part # holds more oil but has anyone confirmed this? Heck I even found some BMW and Audi pans that looked like they would fit...and cheaper than mopar...possibly the exact same part with a BMW or Audi part #. Just wondering if anyone has first hand knowledge about this. Thank you.
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    Ive wondered the same thing..... Hope we find out! I'm assuming they are all different in depth/dimensions to some extent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acerock View Post
    Hello all. I am currently looking to buy a replacement pan with filter for my first transmission service. I have noticed all sorts of pans available on the internet that more or less all look the same for huge price spreads starting at $95 and up too $275. I noticed mopar has a USA made version that they claim is for the 8HP40/45 used in 3.6L V6 cars & trucks and those can be had for $100 all day long with the bolt kit. The part # for our truck's 8HP70 is 68225344AA and is sourced from Germany and can be had for about $185 with bolts. They look identical in photographs! Both made by Filtran. Does anybody know what the differences are and are they interchangeable? I might assume that our part # holds more oil but has anyone confirmed this? Heck I even found some BMW and Audi pans that looked like they would fit...and cheaper than mopar...possibly the exact same part with a BMW or Audi part #. Just wondering if anyone has first hand knowledge about this. Thank you.
    John
    Ditto to wondering. Changed mine at 148,500 and used the Mopar 8HP70 pan and ZF fluids. Took parts to trans shop and only charged me 1 hr labor.

    How many miles on fluid? See attached: ZF Lab.pdf
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    Waiting on my PPE pan. Not plastic, higher capacity, and cheaper services over the life of the truck
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    Well we're all going to find out real soon because I just purchased both pans. My father has a 2014 Chrysler 300 3.6L with 60k miles so that was my reasoning for buying both. I will drop my pan and really compare them with each other and will see if it's more than just country of origin. I paid $94 with free shipping for Mopar #68233701AA. It's a U.S.A. made Filtran. The other one is Mopar #68225344AA for $182. It's a German made Filtran. They both look identical. Who knows, if they are identical I may just end up installing the cheaper one on my ecodiesel and return the expensive one. Why would I pay $88 more just for German? Oh BTW...when I was purchasing the cheaper U.S. made pan, Ebay app had a tab to check if part will fit my vehicle. I selected all my trucks options including the engine type as 3.0L V6 Diesel and it said yes it would fit. Not that I trust ebay's system for parts compatibility but that definitely drove my decision to try. Worst case scenario it doesn't work or the oil capacity is way less and I'll just give it to my pops for his car. So anyways thanks and I will post my findings here in about a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acerock View Post
    Well we're all going to find out real soon because I just purchased both pans. My father has a 2014 Chrysler 300 3.6L with 60k miles so that was my reasoning for buying both. I will drop my pan and really compare them with each other and will see if it's more than just country of origin. I paid $94 with free shipping for Mopar #68233701AA. It's a U.S.A. made Filtran. The other one is Mopar #68225344AA for $182. It's a German made Filtran. They both look identical. Who knows, if they are identical I may just end up installing the cheaper one on my ecodiesel and return the expensive one. Why would I pay $88 more just for German? Oh BTW...when I was purchasing the cheaper U.S. made pan, Ebay app had a tab to check if part will fit my vehicle. I selected all my trucks options including the engine type as 3.0L V6 Diesel and it said yes it would fit. Not that I trust ebay's system for parts compatibility but that definitely drove my decision to try. Worst case scenario it doesn't work or the oil capacity is way less and I'll just give it to my pops for his car. So anyways thanks and I will post my findings here in about a week.
    John
    Good call...did not think of that. Also I put 74k on a 2014 black 300s 3.8 in 14 months. Traded for ED 11/2015...fantastic car and traded off before value plummeted at 100k. Saw it last month...110k now and remains mint.

    When my lazy son graduates UNF c/o 2021 I will either....sell him my ED (my decision) or find a mint used 300s Hemi and customize how he wants...

    Depends on the 2022 Rebel ED and 7.0l pricing...consumer reviews by then...
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    I have not posted photographs on a forum in the longest time so bear with me and the mistakes that I will most likely make. Anyways I recieved both my transmission pans and much to my surprise, they are absolutely identical! I was honestly expecting the ecodiesel 8HP70D pan to be deeper and have a higher capacity but that simply isn't the case. I will try to post the pictures that I took to compare them. Bottom line is, save your money and buy the Mopar part #68233701AA for a 3.6L V6 model. It's a U.S.A. made Filtran and is priced at less than $100 shipped all over the internet and possibly even at a dealership near you.
    John

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    Same patent numbers. Interesting....
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    Why you so late? I paid $130 for my pan on Amazon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acerock View Post
    I have not posted photographs on a forum in the longest time so bear with me and the mistakes that I will most likely make. Anyways I recieved both my transmission pans and much to my surprise, they are absolutely identical! I was honestly expecting the ecodiesel 8HP70D pan to be deeper and have a higher capacity but that simply isn't the case. I will try to post the pictures that I took to compare them. Bottom line is, save your money and buy the Mopar part #68233701AA for a 3.6L V6 model. It's a U.S.A. made Filtran and is priced at less than $100 shipped all over the internet and possibly even at a dealership near you.
    John

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    Same number of magnets in the pan??

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