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    Kalyphus , if you are patient you can wait and find a used GDE tuned ECM ,
    they pop up once in a while , the tune is transferable ,
    - so you get the seller to send it to GDE after you sent them a small amount ,
    -you email GDE that the used module is coming , and give them the needed info to make it work in your truck .
    - you pay GDE $ 150 US + $50 US + +/- $30.85 US for shipping ( any option previous owner had remains in tune )
    -if you add options you will pay for them .
    - when GDE receives module they email you to say all is fine ,
    -you then send the balance due $$$$ to seller , seller gives OK to GDE to send you the " tuned for you module" ,
    -safe method for everybody ...
    -GDE uses UPS , you will have to pay UPS some customs fee of $24.66 CDN
    ..
    ---- in next example , lets say you buy a used tuned module for $800 US
    ---
    - first $200US sent to seller => $ 269.58 Cdn Paypal
    - GDE retune + shipping = $230.85US => $ 307.71 Cdn Paypal
    - balance $600US sent to seller => $ 805.47 Cdn Paypal
    - extra charges by UPS for bogus fees => $ 24.66 Cdn Paypal

    Total in Cdn $$ => $ 1407.42 ==> keeping your stock module .
    the expensive part is the core from GDE.
    ..
    BETTER THAN $2115 , and this is not fiction , it is a detailed transaction that I witnessed in the spring of 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimodo View Post
    Kalyphus , if you are patient you can wait and find a used GDE tuned ECM ,
    they pop up once in a while , the tune is transferable ,
    - so you get the seller to send it to GDE after you sent them a small amount ,
    -you email GDE that the used module is coming , and give them the needed info to make it work in your truck .
    - you pay GDE $ 150 US + $50 US + +/- $30.85 US for shipping ( any option previous owner had remains in tune )
    -if you add options you will pay for them .
    - when GDE receives module they email you to say all is fine ,
    -you then send the balance due $$$$ to seller , seller gives OK to GDE to send you the " tuned for you module" ,
    -safe method for everybody ...
    -GDE uses UPS , you will have to pay UPS some customs fee of $24.66 CDN
    ..
    ---- in next example , lets say you buy a used tuned module for $800 US
    ---
    - first $200US sent to seller => $ 269.58 Cdn Paypal
    - GDE retune + shipping = $230.85US => $ 307.71 Cdn Paypal
    - balance $600US sent to seller => $ 805.47 Cdn Paypal
    - extra charges by UPS for bogus fees => $ 24.66 Cdn Paypal

    Total in Cdn $$ => $ 1407.42 ==> keeping your stock module .
    the expensive part is the core from GDE.
    ..
    BETTER THAN $2115 , and this is not fiction , it is a detailed transaction that I witnessed in the spring of 2018.
    Thanks for the information Kazimodo, yeah I am keeping on eye out for a used one. Also have a call into a scrape yard for an ECM from a wreck, thinking they are probably going to charge $250 to $350 for the ECM then it will be $1445CAN to get it tuned. Your way is still cheaper though.

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    $1407 to $1445 , is pretty much the same thing , with used stock module , you have to pay shipping both ways , guess that is where the difference is ,
    the $650 US for stock module from GDE is the point that breaks our backs in Canada . ( $650 US = +/- $870 CDN , there is the $700 difference )).
    someone did it your way , and he got a phone call from an "undisclosed identity caller" asking why he had a package going across
    the border twice , he said it was an auto electronics part he sent to have fixed, for less $$ than canadian company quoted him ,
    and the caller was satisfied .
    P.S. , to widen your results , did you already know that a ECM from a grand cherokee Ecodiesel
    will also work , only important thing is part number :P05150 767AC.
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    some have extra sticker applied to them , but original sticker must say P05150 767AC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimodo View Post
    $1407 to $1445 , is pretty much the same thing , with used stock module , you have to pay shipping both ways , guess that is where the difference is ,
    the $650 US for stock module from GDE is the point that breaks our backs in Canada . ( $650 US = +/- $870 CDN , there is the $700 difference )).
    someone did it your way , and he got a phone call from an "undisclosed identity caller" asking why he had a package going across
    the border twice , he said it was an auto electronics part he sent to have fixed, for less $$ than canadian company quoted him ,
    and the caller was satisfied .
    P.S. , to widen your results , did you already know that a ECM from a grand cherokee Ecodiesel
    will also work , only important thing is part number :P05150 767AC.
    ..
    some have extra sticker applied to them , but original sticker must say P05150 767AC.
    I had no idea that the ECM from a Cherokee would work too. Will have to keep looking. Regardless I have to save up the money for the Tune first anyways. Maybe I will get lucky and get a used tune.

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    Here's what GDE has said:

    2014-2018 Ram 1500’s and Jeep Grand Cherokee’s 3.0L V6 EcoDiesel engines all use the same base ECM and can be converted from one to the other.


    The part number as written on the silver label affixed to the cover will be 05150767AC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HYDREX View Post
    Think about getting the DEF delete feature. $50 now will save you from resending the ECM to them a second time.
    I’m a bit confused. If GDE does a DEF delete option with the Hot Tune, does the DPF remain physically intact? And if DEF fluid is no longer required, how is the DPF cleaned? Perhaps I don’t understand as much about the system as I should.

    Edit: ok after a little research I see the error of my thought pattern. Diesel fuel is what is used for cleaning the DPF and DEF is injected into the exhaust system to nullify NOx maybe?
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    boocoodinkydow , look at the picture of the 2 exhaust ,
    on left = stock , your exhaust goes into the first canister , it contains the DOC and DPF ,
    further down is the SCR into which the UREA (DEF ) is injected ,
    ..
    Here is how your DPF gets cleaned ; when soot % reaches 66% (stock tune ), and engine is warm enough ,
    there is fuel that is then injected while in exhaust cycle , that extra fuel raises the temperature in the exhaust
    to over 1000 F , for +/- 10 minutes .
    during the regen there is no DEF injected in the SCR , when regen complete Def is injected in SCR again .
    it is a little more complicated than this , sometimes DEF is not injected , but it is a rough idea of the emission .
    this is why the GDE option to NOT inject DEF anymore has nothing to do with the DPF.
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    Your confusion may come from the fact that the Duramax and the Powerstroke use a different order .
    ((They are set up as such: DOC --> DEF INJECTOR --> SCR CATALYST --> DPF.))
    Eco is different.


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    Thank you, sir, for the explanation. A better understanding now.
    I still love my truck but incrementally less each time it throws a CEL!!

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