Test drove a cummins

Test drove a cummins

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    Test drove a cummins

    I stopped into my local dealer the other day and took a new 2018 2055 Tradesman for a spin.

    I really liked it. I especially like the stiffer suspension that actually felt like a truck to me.

    I have a feeling that when I get my settlement cash, a new 2500 might be in my future.

    This is the one I drove.

    https://www.mychryslerdodgejeepram.c...b4432af8ef.htm
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    Hope you like it, I just don't think I would be happy with one for my use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dog View Post
    I stopped into my local dealer the other day and took a new 2018 2055 Tradesman for a spin.

    I really liked it. I especially like the stiffer suspension that actually felt like a truck to me.

    I have a feeling that when I get my settlement cash, a new 2500 might be in my future.

    This is the one I drove.

    https://www.mychryslerdodgejeepram.c...b4432af8ef.htm
    Nice good, basic HD truck. I would paint the wheel flares the body color and upsize the radio if I were shopping for a 2500.
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    Exactly what I would buy. It has the 3:42 rear end ratio. That provides a real reduction in rpm at higher crusing speeds allowing much better fuel mileage. The ones with the 3:75's take a big hit on fuel mileage at speeds above 68 mph. Unfortunately you cannot get that 3:42 in the 2019 Cummins. To me that's a good reason to get a 2018. That 3:42 ration will pull tons more than any Ecodiesel and easily deal with larger trailers far beyond the scope of the most capable Ecodiesel

    Now the 2018 has the mechanical Cummins valve system. You will have to do valve adjustments say every 100K. You get the CP3 injector pump which is real reliable. The engine block and pistons are brick solid but not as friction free as the completely re-designed 2019 Cummins. That is a Generation 5 engine with major block, piston, rod and hydraulic valve changes. The 2019 was designed to be a lighter and more fuel-efficient engine. Unfortunately the rear end ratio mitigates those gains. With the 2018 you get the older 48RE transmission which has some minor shift lever glitches. The 2019 models have a revised 48RE transmission to handle those issues and deal with the extra 50 ft. lbs of torque. The future holds a ZF 8 speed transmission but that may be a couple years off.

    That radio selection has Bluetooth. Near a must today to deal with phone answering. Wish I had something like that as mine does not have the ability to do hands-free phone operation. That makes it illegal in Georgia and soon to be a problem here in Florida. That is the exact radio I would want.

    I like the truck you are looking at. If would be my choice if I wanted to get a 2018 right now.
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    When I bought my Ecodiesel, the salesman said, could probably get a 2500 with a Cummins for the same price, I said great, now can it get 30 mpg? Nope BTW, bought my Ecodiesel 1st of August, last year, now mid May it's ready for it's 40,000 mile oil change. Looks like I'll be putting on around 48-50,000 miles per year. Thats a lot of gallons of diesel difference. So as I figure $2,290.75 more for me to drive a Cummins per year. If this little Ecodiesel let's me down, a Cummins will be in my future!
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    Research resale prices of a 2014 EcoDiesel vs 2014 Cummins same mileage same models, Then figure back cost of each vehicle new at the time when purchased . Then figure fuel savings difference between the 2 vehicles , figure 10 mpg difference ( Mines 8mpg ) come back and please report accurately.

    Capt paid 34 k new EcoDiesel Tradesmen 115,000 miles used value 15k

    A new Tradesmen Cummins was around 38k -40k in 2014.

    My neighbor just sold his well used ranch truck 2012 3500 Tradesmen with 140,000 miles for 22k on Craig’s list, in 1 day and the new owner went by at 10 pm to give a deposit to hold the truck , my friend said he had about 6 calls the day he sold it ....He paided 36k in 2012 ...

    Now this doesn’t compare ride quality or no need for bigger truck, a justifiable need and use for a truck....

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    Those comparisons quickly get complicated with all the variables. Gawd forbid you live in a state with high registration fees based on vehicle value or higher insurance fees.

    Mid 40's ain't too bad for all that 3/4 ton capability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haul N Grass View Post
    Research resale prices of a 2014 EcoDiesel vs 2014 Cummins same mileage same models, Then figure back cost of each vehicle new at the time when purchased . Then figure fuel savings difference between the 2 vehicles , figure 10 mpg difference ( Mines 8mpg ) come back and please report accurately.

    Capt paid 34 k new EcoDiesel Tradesmen 115,000 miles used value 15k

    A new Tradesmen Cummins was around 38k -40k in 2014.

    My neighbor just sold his well used ranch truck 2012 3500 Tradesmen with 140,000 miles for 22k on Craig’s list, in 1 day and the new owner went by at 10 pm to give a deposit to hold the truck , my friend said he had about 6 calls the day he sold it ....He paided 36k in 2012 ...

    Now this doesn’t compare ride quality or no need for bigger truck, a justifiable need and use for a truck....
    All true but we are in Florida with mint trucks 17 years old...he is in Michigan and the road salt/batteyr acid chews through those trucks. Up there they advertise used vehicles as 'Florida Truck'...Texas, AZ, ect.
    Plus the roads suck from plows and pot holes...beats the suspension to death...
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    I’m fortunate to live in The Great State of Florida!!!! We’re allowed to choose our Trucks weight load , I register at 9999lbs this gives me
    Enough carrying capacity of 1ton in my bed , I pay 100 .00 per year registration No other taxes....

    And we’re allowed to pull 27k not including truck with a 1 ton , BTW my neighbor is head of DOT for central Florida, he gave me the numbers to work with....

    https://www.cummins.com/engines/cumm...bo-diesel-2019 And yes There’s a lot of variables ,look on the bottom left side of crankshaft? That’s the crankshaft positioning sensor , How many reluctor wheels have gone bad which requires removing transmission? Water pump 2 bolts,hardest part of job is releasing belt tension and replacing coolant.. Or stuck glow plugs in a aluminum head , which required head removal
    Turbo replacement access removing fender well 11 screws . The list of easy maintenance goes on....

    These Cummins are still extremely simple to work on , well designed basically Tractor engines very accessible ....

    Everyone thinks it happens to others, not them .... Until?.... This isn’t living in fear , This is thinking about reality....

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    Honestly, when Ram puts the 8 speed ZF behind the Cummins in a 2500, things could get interesting.
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