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177k miles - I tried to find the thread to log this but didn't.

On the highway this morning along I-95 taking wife to airport. I was in left lane, but needed to pass one of those middle lane lovers and the exit was approaching. Started to accelerate for over-taking and shifting to the right lane when I had a complete loss of power. Engine light came on, I saw warning about servicing air suspension module. Also saw low oil indication. Trying to make the most of the available momentum, I allowed the middle lane lover to glide past as I signaled (I know, its a rare event these days but I do it religiously) and eventually coasted to a stop on the exit ramp I intended to take toward the airport. On the shoulder, I tried to re-start but it was a no-go. It turned over easily and seemed to do so at a higher speed (like lower compression). I also checked the engine oil level and found plenty of the stick both initially and half hour later.

The truck was recently dealer-serviced (within a few hundred miles) and I have full records of everything done to date. It is beyond warranty (I'm not sure where you guys are seeing 120K warranty - mine is/was clearly 5yr/100K) and technically has the GDE tune (but I waited to the end of the warranty miles to do that for obvious reasons). Given the upcoming settlement, it seems I've found myself in no-mans land.

For those interested, I have the Laramie package with remote start and air ride. I hardly ever tow, but did pull a 28' enclosed trailer from GA to CO and back last year with about 2k weight inside (6K total). Most of the miles are highway - truly and I've kept tabs of fuel economy like clockwork. I use the remote start almost without exception - for both convenience and because I was concerned about the longevity of this engine design. I thought I was winning....

Further, I was on the fence about this engine and its reported issues. One one hand, I had been caught up in what circumstantially appears to be an abnormally high failure rate on this engine. On the other hand, I can appreciate that shit happens in any brand. But I will say to the people that try to downplay the significance of it, consider yourself lucky if you've not had it happen. I am not a fanboy and generally dislike Dodge/RAM/Chrysler but the concept and execution (engine issues withstanding) were ideal. I was sold on it the moment I test drove it and appreciate what it has to offer. But if I had known about the engine issues I absolutely would not have bought it. The potential shock I'm expecting financially is NOT worth the mileage and range.

I've had two vortec gas engine vehicles hit at least 270k before giving appreciable trouble. That is my benchmark.

Thanks for letting me vent.

Z
 

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Sorry to hear. Let us know if it turns out to be a bottom end failure or possibly reluctor wheel/crank sensor.
 

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Hi: HomeMadeSin... Why on earth do you need to go past and cut in front to exit? Why not slo down and cut behind then get off at the ramp. Might not have solved the issue but would have been more responsible smooth driving.
Sorry to pick on your style but it happens to me all the time!!!
Dieseldragon North shore of Lake Erie.
 

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It cant just blow up without any noises for a few minutes.. Also a locked up engine will not turn over. Bet you have something else going on in there..
 

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Warning about service air suspension module? That seems out of place might try checking all the connectors first. Defiantly doesn't sound like a bottom end failure.
 

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Hope you do a follow-up. Lots of mileage on your package. Could be a variety of things but does not read like a major engine failure.
 

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Hi: HomeMadeSin... Why on earth do you need to go past and cut in front to exit? Why not slo down and cut behind then get off at the ramp. Might not have solved the issue but would have been more responsible smooth driving.
Sorry to pick on your style but it happens to me all the time!!!
Dieseldragon North shore of Lake Erie.
To be fair, let me first state I prefer to stay right and pass left. And I generally follow that even if it means that I have to switch lanes frequently to pass. In this case, just before the failure the right lane had semis coming up to speed and the middle lane had the usual “lazy” drivers that couldn’t be bothered with the stay right / pass left ideology. I thought I could maintain my current speed and pass on the left.

It sure seemed like that caused the person I was overtaking to speed up. I know, I know....that never happens. So I did floor it and then it happened. I was half a car length ahead of said offender and had to wait for the opportunity for them to pass me so I could cut behind them (middle lane) and then move over to the right lane and eventually to the shoulder....coasting all the way to try and make it off the interstate.

So I’m not sure where your concern is. I did not cut off anyone. I took an even, measured transition from lane to lane to shoulder. I rarely see this under normal driving conditions much less a full power loss at highway speeds. So please enlighten me.

I will fully admit, I could’ve slowed down and waited for the right lane to clear instead of maintain my desired speed. It was a 50/50 decision. But I generally detest people who drive in the middle lane when no one is in the right lane. And it doesn’t seem to matter if they are pulling a trailer, driving an RV, etc.
 

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I read a couple of posts about the reluctor ring. It does sound like that and I will take that over an engine failure. Any improvements on that design or is it just another reset and wait for it to fail again type of thing?
 

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I will fully admit, I could’ve slowed down and waited for the right lane to clear instead of maintain my desired speed. It was a 50/50 decision. But I generally detest people who drive in the middle lane when no one is in the right lane. And it doesn’t seem to matter if they are pulling a trailer, driving an RV, etc.
When pulling my 24' travel trailer, and there are 3 or more lanes, I never travel in the right lane. I have always considered that the merge/exit lane when in urban areas. I have no interest in dodging vehicles getting on or off the freeway at 60+mph. When/if people learn how to merge with the flow of traffic I will reconsider my position. I am not expecting that to happen any time soon.
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Hi: HomeMadeSin... Why on earth do you need to go past and cut in front to exit? Why not slo down and cut behind then get off at the ramp. Might not have solved the issue but would have been more responsible smooth driving.
Sorry to pick on your style but it happens to me all the time!!!
Dieseldragon North shore of Lake Erie.
A horrible answer to a fellow owner who is looking for advice not a lecture. Geez!
 

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Quickest and basically a for sure answer ,remove your oil filter and check for metal shavings in between the pleats, If you spun bearings there’s going to be metallic particles...
 

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Doesn't sound like the ttypical lower end failure to me. No mention of noise and easily turned over with starter afterwards. Sounds like reluctor as 97 mentions or something in the fuel system.
I agree. A "blown motor" because of lower end failure, typically will still start if turns over. I've seen running engines with holes in the block due to a rod coming loose.
 

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When pulling my 24' travel trailer, and there are 3 or more lanes, I never travel in the right lane. I have always considered that the merge/exit lane when in urban areas. I have no interest in dodging vehicles getting on or off the freeway at 60+mph. When/if people learn how to merge with the flow of traffic I will reconsider my position. I am not expecting that to happen any time soon.
CanyonMan
Please allow me to apologize. I should’ve said that I detest it when people do this, not that I detest people who do it. It takes time and effort for me to communicate better.

Having said that, it’s clear we shall not agree on this topic. Reminds me a bit of the lane ends, merge right argument where people get mad when others occupy the lane that ends up to the last minute. That’s what should happen, IMHO. How many miles is “socially acceptable” to abandon that lane and extend the line?

Aside from my own thread hijack above, I will certainly follow up with what is reported. The dealer did not call me today but hope to hear something on Monday. I will also update the title and/or thread to reflect that in case I got over zealous with my prediction. I do specifically recall thinking how much I like my truck earlier that morning and I hate being the worry-wort on the eco-d scare.

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Well since there is oil on the dipstick you didn't take the lower end out! As for warranty, mine has 8 years or 120,000 miles as I bought the truck with the Mopar bumper to bumper warranty that covers everything with a $100 deductible. I have had vehicles go well past the 250k mark and have had (all Fords) drop engines under the 36k mark. Shit happens when you have hundreds of parts spinning at high RPMs for miles on end. After you get the report back as to what is wrong with the truck let us know.

Good luck.
 
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My truck did the same thing when the lift pump quit. When it happened I immediately feared the worst. I was able to get it running after awhile (died 2 more times on the way and feared I would fry the HPFP but didn’t) to get it to a ram dealer. Paid their $1200 as I was hours from home and my tools out of warranty. My truck was at 130kish miles I believe. There may be hope yet. At your mileage, if the lift pump hasn’t been replaced... I would not be surprised. Don’t add it to the list just yet.
 

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