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My dad called from the dealership. He was looking at a 2016 Ecodiesel. Knowing the EGR recall is current, can they sell a truck with a open recall?
It was a 2x4 base model with 90k miles for 15,000$
 

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That has been the rumor and some stand by it. Others have seen Ecodiesels for sale, often at non-Ram dealers. As for a Ram dealer selling - you may set the tone fo 6th real answer. If the dealer has a problem selling then it would be on them. You like it and want it, then it just might be right for you.
 

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I have an email from the Ram dealer that I bought my 2020 Ram from that says FCA told them they could not sell a truck with an open safety recall and the EGR recall is a safety recall. I have been negotiating with FCA, so far unsuccessfully, for reimbursement for the loss in value onthe trade due to the recall since I ordered the truck before the recall and took delivery adter the recall. In those discussions FCA confirmed that they had told their dealers not to sell any Ecodiesels with the EGR recall open. That said I see the dealer has it listed for sale on his website now but it does say one open recall on the ad. I need to ask the dealer what is going on since he used the excuse of not being able to sell it to reduce the trade allowance.
 

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It is clearly against federal law to sell a new car with an open safety recall. It is not so clear on used cars. Federal law doesn't specifically prohibit it but its possible other consumer laws would apply.
 
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I have an email from the Ram dealer that I bought my 2020 Ram from that says FCA told them they could not sell a truck with an open safety recall and the EGR recall is a safety recall. I have been negotiating with FCA, so far unsuccessfully, for reimbursement for the loss in value onthe trade due to the recall since I ordered the truck before the recall and took delivery adter the recall. In those discussions FCA confirmed that they had told their dealers not to sell any Ecodiesels with the EGR recall open. That said I see the dealer has it listed for sale on his website now but it does say one open recall on the ad. I need to ask the dealer what is going on since he used the excuse of not being able to sell it to reduce the trade allowance.
At this point in time the dealership will deduct for what they Anticipate the recall will cost them and any down time that it will stay on their lot. I am presently working with my dealership for a trade up and it sounds like FCA has given them some leeway, will know shortly the details with detailed the numbers.


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The dealership replied to me online question. They said all recalls were performed.

Thats hilarious. I know of one recall that would have been impossible to complete.
Whatever is convenient for the dealership as an explanation.
 

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I am just messing w them. I asked for records of the EGR fire safety recall being completed. They have not replied back.
Ultimately what they are doing is fraud and they could be exposing themselves to huge liability.
 

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The iaauw with new verses used vehicles is probably an important determiner. I remember when Ford stopped all sales of their new 3.0 diesels for an EGR recall. They could not sell new vehicles and didn't . They had to change some bolts on those systems before selling. Now not sure what application there was to used ones so another issue.

Right now many dealers and car lots are actively selling used Ecodiesels. If there was an all-inclusive Federal law against it I doubt that would not be the case. Guessing, now it is just a guess, that the issue really only applies to new vehicles. Since there would be few new old designs around it is probably just a PR issue rather than a common inventory stoppage. Bet dealers are just using the issue as an excuse to increase their profit margin.
 

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Ultimately what they are doing is fraud and they could be exposing themselves to huge liability.
My point here is.......if they tell a buyer that the truck you just purchased has had all the open recalls performed and there are none outstanding, when in fact we know the EGR recall (Safety Recall) is still outstanding because the parts will only be released months from now...... then they are defrauding the buyer as well as taking a huge risk if that truck catches on fire and someone is hurt or worse. This dealer is a shyster willing to take the risk for a few thousand dollars profit.
 

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Was servicing my F250 6.9 and went by a Ram dealership and decided to pull in. I asked about the Gen 3 and the 2016 EcoDiesel on the lot and they were clueless. There was another ED at the Toyota used lot right next door. I must admit I decided to have some fun. I was introduced to the GM who said we have two new EcoDiesels that had just arrived. They were Classics and 2019. Again I asked for if he had any 2020 EDs on the lot you can’t sell the 2019s. He argued with me, “they just sent them to us” made a few phone calls. We can’t sell them your right.

Ram dealerships can not sell used/traded in EcoDiesels under the VB1 recall. They will deduct for the recall and estimated lot charge. Used car lots and other brands might sell the used EDs out of ignorance.

The GM has 25 years with Mopar. Gave me his card and said he’s going to call Detroit to see what’s up?!


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I noticed fwiw that Elk Grove dodge is advertising eco diesels again at $18k off. And not long after the recall dropped they had pulled the ads so I’m thinking something has changed
 

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I noticed fwiw that Elk Grove dodge is advertising eco diesels again at $18k off. And not long after the recall dropped they had pulled the ads so I’m thinking something has changed
I hope their sales suffer! We can’t trade in because of the overpriced crap they sold us. Fire In A Truck (Fiat).




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There are a couple of Ram dealers in my local area with used ED’s for sale on their websites. I haven’t spoken to them directly so I can’t say if they would actually sell them right now. What I am certain of is that my 2016 ED with a failed EGR can’t be sold right now!
 

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The more I think about it the dots don't connect. Car max is a big company. They bought it with no issue. Selling it openly and disclosing the recall need to be done.

Why couldn't the ram dealer be the same? Its used, not new. Different department??

I say Ram has some brass gonads. Alienate your customer who is already on the edge. Textbook case of how NOT to treat a customer.

Pitiful when your only savior is car max. Real pitiful......
 
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