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for what its worth , I communicated with Edge to let them know that the 2014 , 2015 , and 2016
kept all Edge insight monitor functionality after AEM tune is applied ,
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and then asked them about 2017 , 2018 ,not being figured out yet by Edge ,
and here is their answer ......: "As for the 2017+ applications, our Engineering team will revisit that in the near future. "
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that was June 5th 2019.
 

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Good to know. Only thing is does the EDGE turn off the EGR and the DEF?

Power is not really an issue if the whole thing falls apart or stops due to emissions failures. I do not think Edge or anyone else deals with the two critical issues plaguing modern diesels - EGR and DEF. The DPF does not seem to be that big of a deal and does seem more reliable than the other two systems.
 

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Captain , Edge does not do any of that , it only displays info collected from sensors on
the truck , that the ECM uses to establish how it controls the Engine , just show info , only exeption
is the ability to tell the ECM that you want the truck to trigger a regen on next start-up ,
everything else is just ability to "view " a few of the parameters usually invisible, stuff like :
-ability to change tire size that the ECM uses to display proper speed on speedo
-what gear your transmission is in
-temperature of 4 EGT temp
-is torque converter locked
-actual soot level in DPF ( used to determine trigger of next regen )
......all stuff that is not displayed on EVIC with stock tune , or even Gde tune .
 

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Captain , Edge does not do any of that , it only displays info collected from sensors on
the truck , that the ECM uses to establish how it controls the Engine , just show info , only exeption
is the ability to tell the ECM that you want the truck to trigger a regen on next start-up ,
everything else is just ability to "view " a few of the parameters usually invisible, stuff like :
-ability to change tire size that the ECM uses to display proper speed on speedo
-what gear your transmission is in
-temperature of 4 EGT temp
-is torque converter locked
-actual soot level in DPF ( used to determine trigger of next regen )
......all stuff that is not displayed on EVIC with stock tune , or even Gde tune .
Thanks. That is what I thought. Just surprised at the title for this thread. Makes Edge seem to be some kind of tune/program. To me a programmer is a sort of tuner. Edge is primarily a monitor with that regeneration inducement ability.

Appreciate the follow-up clarity and other readers may also.
 

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You can actually change and down load different programming/ formats for an Edge unit , I changed mine to the Cummins unlock platform, this program unlocked the Cummins ECU so you could download a tune if you wanted, this is no longer required since all tuners are capable of unlocking the ECU on their own now ..
 

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Related two this programming/ monitor thing, is the newer high and low pressure EGR system on the upcoming Ecodiesel and GM 3.0 going to cause tuners trouble?

Just reading comments from all around and that thought has popped up a few times. There's no way I would move to one of those engines if there was no reasonable way to turn off the EGR short of a full delete. I realize it's early to consider that with no production and sales of them yet.
 

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Capt... The duel loop EGR system has been developing for over 7 years that I’m aware of , This engine management system seems to be the answer that stops small displacement diesels from spinning bearings along with all the other issues plagued by these early Designed EGR’s , The duel loop EGR’s at start up and until the engine is up to operating temperatures is using clean dpf filtered exhaust gases , Not dirty unburnt soot like they’re doing presently..

Now what seems to be going over the top of most folks heads are the coolant systems ? These systems basically have a split coolant system that adds additional heat to the head and top of the combustion Chamber to help with cold combustion start ups these cold starts which creates a tremendous amount of soot because the combustion chamber is not up operating temperatures,remember diesels are compression ignition = aka Unburnt fuel = soot ...

Right now this system is the only one that seems to be EPA compliant and does not destroy small diesel engines....

It’s extremely computerized and complex ,

Tuning shouldn’t be an issue....

If you do not like this very complex system, buy a Cummins....Because Your either going to pay extra for fuel consumption or pay costly repair bills once out of warranty or trade out before warranty ends ....
 

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A few years back the EPA fined Edge Products $500k for defeating emission controls. I did a quick search and didn't see any Ram hemi tuners/programmers on their website this morning just a bunch of monitors, cold air intakes, and other accessories. It's interesting if they are getting back into diesel tunes after getting some EPA religion.

https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/edge-products-llc-settlement
It was only the full delete that got them in troible. Tuning is not necessarily illegal
 

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A tune can be accomplished without any modifications to emissions related components as least to the best of my knowledge.
But isn't the ECM itself considered part of the "emissions related components"? If not, why did FCA (and VW and Mercedes, et al) get in such trouble over changes to the engine control software?
 
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