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Extreme Cold Weather - Rotella vs. Amsoil 5w40

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#1 ·
Im living in alberta right now and the average temperature has been -20 in the day and -30 at night. I currently have a Rotella T6 in my engine and the cold pour point is -34. Amsoils cold pour point is -51.... So if there is -40 degree weather like a few years ago, will ot cuase damage to the oil pump or engine having the t6 in instead of amsoil? I know cummins guys who only use t6 and their engines just keep on running despite the -40 temps
 
#6 ·
watch your oil temp right after start up. If you are plugged in for at least 2 hours I bet you'll see oil temps of 0 F or better on startup. Somewhere I posted what I was seeing at minus 15 F a couple years ago but it definitely warms the oil too. At minus 15 F I saw no increase in water or oil temp after 2 hours of being plugged in. At minus 40 it might take longer than 2 hours to reach equilibrium between heat input and heat loss. We are forecast for minus 21 F actual temp tonight/tomorrow morning so I will plan on seeing what mine says tomorrow. THis wil be the coldest it has seen.

I would still opt for Amsoil and I don't sell it. It sure makes the 4 cycle snowmobiles and ATVs and misc other equipment start nice in the winter. My Truck has prepurchased dealer changes so it gets what they give it, consistent with FCA recommendations, otherwise I would have Amsoil in it up here.
 
#8 ·
WE had minus 20 F this morning. I turned on the block heater for exactly 2 hours. Prior to startup the evic indicated 40 deg F water temp and 4 degrees oil temp. After startup and approximately 30 seconds of running it indicated 37 deg water temp and 8 degrees oil temp. Of course the truck started easily and ran fine.
 
#11 ·
If I was seeing those temps, I would have an oil pan heater, no matter what oil I was running.
 
#17 ·
A magnetic oil pan heater can be purchased that magnetically attaches to the oil pan. You may have to go to a specialty auto parts store to find. Probably a good idea to remove it before you drive away with it attached. A simple solution to warming up the oil. The block heater primarily heats the coolant in the block so in extreme cold temperatures it is a good idea to warm up the oil also. A couple of hours should suffice.
Now that Amsoil makes an oil compatible with ED requirements, I recently switched to it. Amsoil is an excellent oil. I know from years of experience using it.
 
#22 ·
More than likely any half decent synthetic oil combined with the use of the factory block heater will provide enough heat to keep the oil viscous at those low temps. Now if you really want to be a hot shot forget the oil pan heaters and other stuff, get a coolant pre heater pump like these ones in the link below for TDI's. I installed one about 9 years ago on our TDI and have never looked back. I even made my own kit with the same Zero Start coolant heater they use in another vehicle, worked super awesome.

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