I find it interesting that NHTSA is more worried about the HPFP causing an unexpected loss of drive power, increasing the risk of a crash than the engine itself! I would put money on it that there are way more engine failures than CP4 pump failures!Bet after the emissions lawsuit engine failures and now this they severely regret producing this vehicle!
I've got an awesome designated EcoDiesel dealer tech, so I'm not worried about it. With that said, I understand your concerns. Many dealers don't have competent techs.Even through this is definitely an upgrade just the thought of any dealer putting their hands on my "Perfect till now" Engine gives me the creeps.
Farmington, New Mexico. Although, there's a designated EcoDiesel tech at one of the dealers in Albuquerque, too. Both techs know these engines like the back of their hand. When I go into the shop, they usually have 2 - 3 EcoDiesel vehicles on the lift at any given time. Interestingly, both techs like working on the engine and have mostly good things to say about the platform.
@GDE, a person in the facebook group posted the following. Does this sound correct to you?It helps with poor lubricity fuel and should also make this version of the CP4.2 best in class.
Like GDE said, the recall doesn't make sense or cents. This will be more costly than the EGR recall. Not only are the pumps expensive, but the installation will be too. Like I mentioned, the engine failure rate is just as dangerous, and its failure rate is higher than the CP4. Is FCA going to recall engines, too?As for recalls, I think we just need to remember Fight Club:
"A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."
He's saying if FCA uses an updated CP4.2 pump, then tuning can remain the same. If FCA goes with a different pump, like the CP3, then it will require tuning, similar to the 2019 - 2020 Cummins recall. The Cummins will get a new pump and new tuning. Most likely, the EcoDiesel will get an updated CP4 pump which won't require any tuning updates.
I'll take a new engine with the new HPFP! That would be a dream come true!And agree with your logic - fix the bearing problem and the rare HPFP issue becomes a non-issue in my mind.
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What would be the logic with stating with the newer vehicles? I would think it would be best to start with the older more susceptible vehicles.Just spoke to the service manager. She said it looks like it's just an updated version of the CP4.x. They are starting with the newer trucks first (2018+). Anticipated replacements to start Q1 2023.
My dad said something similar. He said that as time goes on, more of the older trucks (especially the 2014s and 2015s) will be going out of service due to major repairs. I wouldn't think there would be enough vehicles going out of service to really benefit FCA, but I'm sure corporate runs tight numbers.Im not sure but my service truck is a 2019 with the 6.7 and it sure would suck if the cp4 went out. Maybe there trying to prevent early failures and let the dealers blaim major failures on contaminated fuel.