I have a 2015 and 2020. Both trucks are great, but the 2020 has the best towing characteristics. A lot of it depends on your budget and what you can afford.
This is true.Not for the vast majority of 1500 owners who dont actually haul or tow with them..Some folks believe a diesel in a 1500 defeats the purpose too but not everyone nor their use of their truck is the same.
3.21 gears get better mpg, I bet those folks are really appreciating those 3.21 gears right now
Cooling is only an issue with the 2014 - 2019 trucks. The 2020+ trucks do not have the cooling issue.I just want to make sure these can tow 7500 fairly easy and not way overload it. I hear things about the grills being restrictive and a few other things. Can they tow fine without a tune? I’m in ca and it’s illegal to have those
As mentioned above, I have a 2015 and 2020. I love both trucks and have no plans to get rid of either one. The 2020+ trucks are still fairly new, so we haven't seen many high mileage 3rd gen EcoDiesels. Longterm durability and reliability are unknown at this time, but the platform appears to be reliable. The forum is very familiar with the issues surrounding the 2014 - 2019 2nd gen EcoDiesels. It really boils down to your budget.Thinking about the 20 or newer if I can afford it. Anybody with knowledge comparing the two?
According GDE, "the main bearing issues is partially design weaknesses and assembly tolerance stack-ups." You either get a good engine or you get a bad engine. It's estimated that a good 10% - 12% of engines are bad. That means you have an 88% - 90% chance of getting a good engine.Are the main bearing failures do to lack of good maintenance on these trucks?
The engines are not junk; however, the engines are economical throwaway engines. That's why they cost $7,895.00, which includes a new turbo, new CP4 pump, new injectors, etc. That's cheap!Do you personally think these motors are junk?
It depends on the engine. Rotella T6 has proven to be a good oil in the 2014 - 2019 EcoDiesel for both stock and tuned trucks. If you're going to buy a 2020+ EcoDiesel, then I would run either Pennzoil Platinum or Amsoil 5W-40 EFM. The 2014 - 2019 EcoDiesel runs dirtier than the 2020+ EcoDiesel, so adhering to the 5,000-mile oil change is probably a good idea. The 2020+ trucks use a low pressure EGR which draws gas after the DPF and is then pumped back into the intake pre-turbo.What is the best oil to use with these? I plan on changing every 5k
According to GDE, "most engine failures on this platform failed below 60,000 miles, although there have been a good number above that. The low hour failures would point to assembly plant issues with the line bore operation, crank straightness, bearing sorting and block distortion compensation. I have been to Cento, IT assembly plant many times and there is room for improvement. The higher mileage failures show more of the design weaknesses in bearing sizing and crank bending moment."Are those 10 - 12% the Friday afternoon or Monday Morning assemblies?
Yes, but your truck is tuned.No issue with changing T6 at 10,000 mile intervals on the 2014-2019 models.
If you want to tow your 7,500 lb travel trailer that is 27' foot long, then you would be better off with the 2020+ EcoDiesel.I am going to try to find a 2020 if it’s reasonably priced.
My last UOA showed 4.91 TBN with 5,368 miles on the oil change interval, which is lower than your 5.1 TBN at 10,000 miles!
My 2015 is a fairly loaded Big Horn. It has the Mopar Katzkin leather seats, navigation, towing package, 4x4, limited slip, side steps, and chrome package. We are happy with it.I would love a Laramie but think a big horn is more affordable and still is a nice interior. Gotta have 4x4 too. The 2020+ out here run about 45-60k and the pre 2020 run about 30-40k. Trying to make the extra 5-10k justifiable for a newer one with less problems
There's no right or wrong answer. It really boils down to what you prefer to drive and what you're willing to tolerate. You've already concluded that the 2020+ EcoDiesel would be better for your towing needs. The 2020+ engines don't have the same issues as the previous generation engine, therefore that should take care of some of your concerns.I’m also wondering if a v8 would be just as effective or better for towing the trailer a couple times a year? Just trying to figure out options. I’ve been reading on some other forums about The Ecodiesel and multiple engine replacements and being on back order and not sure that is something I want to deal with.
Amsoil is a good oil. I'll be switching the 2020 to Amsoil as soon as I run out of Pennzoil. For now, I think I'll stick with Rotella T6 for the 2015. I may consider switching to Amsoil if Rotella continues to be difficult to source. I really don't put enough miles on my truck(s) to benefit from Amsoil, but then again, I would probably feel better about extending my drain intervals if I were running Amsoil.I just use AMSoil.
I really don't have any tips other than making sure the truck is 100% bone stock with good service records. You want as much warranty as you can get. Most costly problems will arise inside the 5-year/100,000-mile powertrain warranty period, therefore age is just as important as miles. For example, a 2018 with 30,000 miles sounds like a great deal, but it only has 1 year of warranty left.Any tips on what to look for on used Ecodiesels?
Great question. In my opinion, you're pushing it. In stock form, you'll have to go really slow over mountain passes. If the 2019 Laramie grille is restrictive like earlier models, then you'll need to change out the front grille. The Laramie and Big Horn grilles are the most restrictive. My truck derated twice going over mountain passes towing this trailer:Found a 2019 classic Laramie 4x4 with 23000 miles and by looking up the model and trim the max tow capacity based on that and the rear end ratio of 3.55 it can tow 7,770. My trailer gvw is 7600. Do you guys think that is too close to be pushing it? It only needs to tow a few weekends a year
That's a new type of grille, so I'm unsure. It might be fine. You'll need to look closely at the grille slots. You don't want texturing behind the grille as seen in these photos:Here is the grill on this truck