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Is there anyone here in the corona California area ? The reason I ask is I spoke with AFE about a 4inch dpf back single exhaust for our trucks but they need someone to come by so they can take measurements !
 
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No can do, that's a violation of EPA and CARB clean air standards for the environment all of us live in, and goes against Clean Diesel technology, and browning up our skies with excessive NOX generation.

There is no need for a 4" back exhaust system on a 3.0 liter turbo diesel, unless you are retarded in the laws of physics. It flat out doesn't flow enough, and you shouldn't be running the motor much above 2500 rpms anyways.

Strongly suggest you read your Owners Manual, cover to cover, this is not like any other previous diesel vehicle that you've owned.
 

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Aftermarket diesel parts maker fined $1 million by CARB
The California Air Resources Board has fined a diesel parts manufacturer $1 million for selling aftermarket equipment that modified emission control systems. - See more at: Aftermarket diesel parts maker fined $1 million by CARB
 

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Ok let me start off by saying no mods will be done to your vehicle just measurements , I am aware of the laws in California regarding diesels this for a Texas truck that will be " off road use only " I wasnt trying to raise all kinds of hell about it , I was just curious if someone lived near by !
 
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Ok let me start off by saying no mods will be done to your vehicle just measurements , I am aware of the laws in California regarding diesels this for a Texas truck that will be " off road use only " I wasnt trying to raise all kinds of hell about it , I was just curious if someone lived near by !
And the Pope is Jewish.

No need for Texas plates, then, or registration, or insurance either on your truck?

I smell a shill. One that lies, too. Your veracity is questionable.

Let's be realistic, it's not just CARB, your truck is an EPA approved 50 state truck. EPA happens to be in alignment with CARB on diesel powered engines and pollution controls required of them to be public consumption legal on our streets for the purpose of travel or commerce.
Hope this helps your "awareness" level and gets you up to speed on the subject. Just trying to help educate the masses.
 

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Niner please read thoroughly this is emission back !!!!!!!!! I'm not trying to cut down trees here I'd just like a way to get rid of the mufflers behind the emission system
 

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What is wrong with a performance exhaust that keeps the emissions system intact? Some people are far too sensitive. I suspect many drove a minivan before they purchased thier trucks.
 
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There are plenty of people North of the border that buy these products with Zero emission regulations to stop them. There is a heck of a market for it.
Where in Canada are there zero emissions regulations? Ministry or Transport has no emissions requirements? I find that hard to believe, show me several government links that confirm your statement.
 
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Niner please read thoroughly this is emission back !!!!!!!!! I'm not trying to cut down trees here I'd just like a way to get rid of the mufflers behind the emission system
Sir, what exactly are you trying to eliminate with a 4" exhaust pipe, versus the stock system? Once you run engine exhaust through a turbo charger, and a DPF, as well as a SCR NOX filter, there is nothing much to be gained past those pollution control systems, except noise. Zero, nada, nothing. Noise is something children enjoy making, the older and wiser crowd enjoy silence as well as peace and quiet.

Unless you consider increased exhaust noise "performance" you are fooling yourself and everyone else. Then this "for off road use only" post. Another WTF moment... your veracity and intent is lost... FAIL.

You will never reduce exhaust pressure on a turbo charged engine. Why? Because the exhaust turbine side runs at 3 to 4x the pressure as the compressor/boost side. That is back pressure against the pistons, rods, crank, the whole assembly, on the exhaust stroke. So if you are running full boost, 22 psi on the intake side, the pressure pre turbo on the exhaust side will be 66 to 88 psi running against the motor and drive train. There are no free lunches, if you gain boost on one side, you lose it in compression of the other side of the turbo, the exhaust side. Basic law of physics, nothing is free. So you can't make the motor breathe better, pre turbo, and that's the crux of the matter. What happens post turbo, on a VNT turbo design, is moot, in terms of increasing performance. Nill, Nada, Nothing.

Exhaust flow and pressures used to matter on normally aspirated engines, it matters not one bit on a turbocharged engine with a VNT Turbo design.

I would sooner spend my money on a penis enlargement surgery than exhaust modifications if I wanted a chick or a babe magnet or some such sort of compensator with the chick, babes, or hook up monsters, I don't know what you kids call them these days.
 

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Ontario enforces clean air with routine emissions testing on all vehicles as a condition to renew your registration.

Alberta does not. My EcoDiesel is the only diesel vehicle I own that has emissions equipment on it.

My 2011 Cummins-Deleted
My 2010 Kenworth-Deleted

Province doesn't seem to care and everyone here does it. Some do it for performance, others for reliability. My Kenworth was actually deleted by the dealership prior to delivery by my request.
 

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Sir, what exactly are you trying to eliminate with a 4" exhaust pipe, versus the stock system? Once you run engine exhaust through a turbo charger, and a DPF, as well as a SCR NOX filter, there is nothing much to be gained past those pollution control systems, except noise. Zero, nada, nothing. Noise is something children enjoy making, the older and wiser crowd enjoy silence as well as peace and quiet.
Who are you to judge what someone's truck should sound like? If they want a louder exhaust with possible horsepower gains I don't see a problem.
 

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Niner please read thoroughly this is emission back !!!!!!!!! I'm not trying to cut down trees here I'd just like a way to get rid of the mufflers behind the emission system
With a DPF back exhaust system, you certainly would be eliminating the SCR.
 

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As I said before I'm not trying to start shit here I'm new to the scr system / emissions on the eco diesel . my previous truck was a 2010 6.4 fully deleted . As the post says I was asking if someone was in the area not for a lesson in law or others views on cosmetics of my vehicle ! If this is not you a simple click on the back arrow will suffice !

97hmcs PLEASE READ! Mufflers BEHIND emission system .
 
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What do you intend to gain, deleting the muffler? this is a piss ant sized 3.0 liter diesel motor, WTF do you think it's going to sound like? A hell of a lot less than a 6.7 Cummins. A joke.... like a fart in a tornado, no one cares to hear it. Or smell it. Which is generally what these deletes do, make noise and stink. Stick your head under neath your truck, and see where the muffler sits, after the SCR injection system.

Really, you are chasing unicorn farts and rainbows with the thought process being applied.
 

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What do you intend to gain, deleting the muffler? this is a piss ant sized 3.0 liter diesel motor, WTF do you think it's going to sound like? A hell of a lot less than a 6.7 Cummins. A joke.... like a fart in a tornado, no one cares to hear it. Or smell it. Which is generally what these deletes do, make noise and stink. Stick your head under neath your truck, and see where the muffler sits, after the SCR injection system.

Really, you are chasing unicorn farts and rainbows with the thought process being applied.
A little over the top today NinerBikes, not just this post either. No need for the drama or the insults.
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Who are you to judge what someone's truck should sound like? If they want a louder exhaust with possible horsepower gains I don't see a problem.

Did you know that driving is a privilege, not a Right? Do you know the difference? That your state can remove your privilege to drive, by removing your drivers license for violations of laws, all kinds of them, including noise pollution laws? Do you know what your obligations are when operating a vehicle on public transit roads that all of us pay taxes on to use? Do you even know what your local or state noise pollution laws are on modifying exhaust systems for the purpost of increasing noise are? Local police jurisdictions?

If you don't like the laws, change them, otherwise, comply. You think you're someone special that gets to make more noise while driving past everyone else's house at night on a public street, when they are asleep and have to work the next day?

I DO see the problem.

Ever seen the movie "Dumb and Dumber" ?
 
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