Ask anyone that’s used K&N air filters and they’ll likely tell you it’s a waste if money and every sensor in the intake ends up covered it that oil. Just use a paper filter and be done with it.Personally I would only use OEM for the fuel filter.
Not a big fan of the K&N air filter, but I believe they are available.
Thank you. I have updated the first page to reflect these two filters.There are some new filters on amazon popping up:
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Weird, been using K & N filters in many vehicles since the late 70's including my ecodiesel and I am happy to say that I have never found ANY oil in the intake or had an issue with a sensor..Ask anyone that’s used K&N air filters and they’ll likely tell you it’s a waste if money and every sensor in the intake ends up covered it that oil. Just use a paper filter and be done with it.
Found this on Amazon relative to Ecogard and Oner filters for the Gen3 Ecodiesel.Thank you. I have updated the first page to reflect these two filters.
Its a cartridge style filter the anti drain back is built into the filter adapter housing not the filter itself. Even the oem filter has issues with people not installing it correctly. Dont take reviews to heart lots of people screw up installs and blame the product.Found this on Amazon relative to Ecogard and Oner filters for the Gen3 Ecodiesel. View attachment 90272
I wish someone would do a cutaway comparison of the filters that are available. Expensive motor to be taking chances with unproven filters. Even if the company has produced good products in the past. Sounds like the OEM filter is significantly better and not the same as the knock-offs coming out.
I agree, that's why I would like to see someone that knew what they were doing, do a cutaway comparison so we could all see. Probably get sued by the knockoffs. Saw some of these on YouTube (Not for the Gen3 cartridge though). The differences in manufacture quality is eye opening. I would like to see Mann come out with a filter for this, at less cost than the OEM filter for sure. Should be getting my new 2022 in October. Have a shipping date of 9/17. I think I will stay with Mopar for the time being.Its a cartridge style filter the anti drain back is built into the filter adapter housing not the filter itself. Even the oem filter has issues with people not installing it correctly. Dont take reviews to heart lots of people screw up installs and blame the product.
Well I dont have a third gen but I did just order an ecogard S11880 which is for a third gen so I can see the difference. The third gen does have an updated drain back design in the filter housing.I agree, that's why I would like to see someone that knew what they were doing, do a cutaway comparison so we could all see. Probably get sued by the knockoffs. Saw some of these on YouTube (Not for the Gen3 cartridge though). The differences in manufacture quality is eye opening. I would like to see Mann come out with a filter for this, at less cost than the OEM filter for sure. Should be getting my new 2022 in October. Have a shipping date of 9/17. I think I will stay with Mopar for the time being.
Both filters have already been identified and labeled on the front page of this thread.Found this on Amazon relative to Ecogard and Oner filters for the Gen3 Ecodiesel.
Post was about people having issues with them. Like I said, it would be nice if someone would take apart what is available aftermarket and compare with OEM for quality of construction.Both filters have already been identified and labeled on the front page of this thread.
When it comes to oil filters, there's no reason (in my opinion) to not stick with OEM. If people want better filtration, then I would recommend installing an oil by-pass filter.Post was about people having issues with them. Like I said, it would be nice if someone would take apart what is available aftermarket and compare with OEM for quality of construction.
I don't know if this is diverging from the topic, but it seems likeplugging of the engine oil flow ports with soot is the primary cause of engine failure, especially in Gen2 engines. Gen 3 engines seem to be doing better from what see in these forums. What is the best way to ensure that soot content of the oil is kept to a minimum without doing a delete?When it comes to oil filters, there's no reason (in my opinion) to not stick with OEM. If people want better filtration, then I would recommend installing an oil by-pass filter.
We've seen many UOA reports from the 2014 - 2019 engine. None of them show a soot issue. There's a debate on what causes the spun bearing in the 2nd gen engine, but nobody knows for sure what is causing it. It could be anything from oil pump failures to assembly issues.I don't know if this is diverging from the topic, but it seems likeplugging of the engine oil flow ports with soot is the primary cause of engine failure, especially in Gen2 engines. Gen 3 engines seem to be doing better from what see in these forums. What is the best way to ensure that soot content of the oil is kept to a minimum without doing a delete?
I will be using Amsoil. Based on what I have read on here, that might be a good choice. Saw a couple of tear-downs and videos about engine failures and deletes that the engine oil ports were getting plugged by soot. Don't know if it was being recycled back into the engine because of the environmental stuff on the engine, or, the oil just isn't being cleaned well. A case for more frequent oil and filter changes, oil analysis and for having the best filter available in your engine. We don't know what is best. Mopar is made in China. The best filter manufacturers don't make this filter yet, and just about everything available are no-name knock-offs. Right now, for me it is Amsoil and Mopar Filters.We've seen many UOA reports from the 2014 - 2019 engine. None of them show a soot issue. There's a debate on what causes the spun bearing in the 2nd gen engine, but nobody knows for sure what is causing it. It could be anything from oil pump failures to assembly issues.
Running a high quality group 5 oil has shown less NOACK (oil vapor) being sent into the intake. Even on the gen 3 engine, guys who run cheap oil are experiencing a plugged MAP sensor.
There was one YouTube video that showed an oil journal plugged with something hard. Some people speculated it could have been melted metal or oil coking. The person who did the teardown had no history on the engine nor did they send the material clogging the journal to a lab for analysis. GDE has seen many tore down engines and has yet to see oil journals clogged.Saw a couple of tear-downs and videos about engine failures and deletes that the engine oil ports were getting plugged by soot.
Amsoil is a very good oil. It also has a lower NOACK, so it will keep your intake cleaner, plus prolong the life of the DPF.Right now, for me it is Amsoil and Mopar Filters.
Just curious with Ecoguard oil filter you had installed. did you or have encounter any issue with your 3rd Gen 3.0? thxWell the ecogard filter showed up so I took it apart. They changed the oil filter bypass design its now built into the filter cap instead of the housing like the second gens. But over all it seemed like good quality to me I dont have a oem filter to compare. View attachment 90285 View attachment 90286 View attachment 90287 View attachment 90288 View attachment 90289