Went to Walmart to see if any of the other items on the list are available before ordering Pennzoil from Amazon and noticed that the Valvoline containers do include the spec listed. For me I would rather pay the slight premium since their rep specifically stated they don't have a product that meets that spec.Since you heard directly from Valvoline, I'll remove their products off the first page. Thank you for finding the discrepancy and making the phone call to verify.
While reading the description for this oil I noticed that the manufacturer says this oil is for diesel and gasoline engines WITHOUT DPF. Now I’m worried that it may be a mistake. Any thoughts? See linkLiqui-Moly confirmed their Leichtlauf High Tech 5W-40 is suitable and meets the specification. I have asked if they can update the recommended for section of the website to include that.
Here is their oil search guide. I have asked them the question above about DPF.While reading the description for this oil I noticed that the manufacturer says this oil is for diesel and gasoline engines WITHOUT DPF. Now I’m worried that it may be a mistake. Any thoughts? See link
<p>Top class fully synthetic, all-season motor oil for superior performance and long engine life. For gasoline and diesel vehicles without particulate filters (GPF/DPF). Exceeds strict test requirements specified by major manufacturers. Safe with catalytiproducts.liqui-moly.us
I let oil sit on the shelf for 2 years, but that's about the limit. I've read that engine oils can have a shelf life up to 5 years, but proper storage is critical. I store engine oil in the garage and DEF in the house at room temperatures. If I were to keep oil for more than 2 years, I would recommend storing it in the house.The mileage I expect to put on my new Ram is pretty low, so I expect to do an oil change once a year. How long is the shelf life of oil. I am putting an order together for Amsoil and was thinking of ordering 3 cases of 12 using their preferred customer program. Less than 8.00 a qt. However is it wise to leave it set on the shelf for 3 years.
While it's true that X-cess and X-clean are both MS-12991 certified, I personally plan to start using X-clean. Reason being that X-clean is <0.8% sulfated ash content whereas X-cess is 1.1%. The X-clean will keep your MAP sensor and emissions system more soot-free over time. Just my $0.02.It appears that Motul has done some reformulating. There are now three approved oils from them. I have updated the front page to reflect those changes.
Motul 8100 C-clean 5W-40
Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40
Motul 8100 X-cess gen2 5W-40
Sounds logical.While it's true that X-cess and X-clean are both MS-12991 certified, I personally plan to start using X-clean. Reason being that X-clean is <0.8% sulfated ash content whereas X-cess is 1.1%. The X-clean will keep your MAP sensor and emissions system more soot-free over time. Just my $0.02.
I'm looking forward to seeing your Quaker State UOAs.I'm still running the Quaker State oil for the rest of this year to see how it holds up out of curiosity and for more data. I've got 2 more jugs of it left.
Liqui-Moly wrote back to me requesting the owner’s manual which I sent. Then they wrote back confirming that it Does meet the specs.Some of these companies are notorious about not listing the standard, but saying their product is suitable for meeting spec. Or, they are reformulating and changing their product spec. Since MS-12291 was a new spec, I was giving manufacturers some grace. But now that time has passed, I won't be so lenient on the front page of this thread.
Rob, I removed Leichtlauf Liqui Moly High Tech SAE 5W-40 from the first page since it doesn't currently meet specs. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.