I don't think it is disturbing, just different oil. They start them up and drive them off the assembly line so they have oil in them then. Going by what DJ-Gregg says, they would be filled at the engine factory in Cento, Italy. From what I can gather Fiat has some type of relationship with Petronas for lubricants. It may be that they are filled with Petronas Selenia Multipower C3. That is the oil specified for the Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3.0l VM Motori diesel in Italy.This is disturbing - what oil are they putting in these engines if it's NOT Pennzoil Ultra Euro L 5W-30? There was but one or two oils in the U.S. That were approved when the 2014 engines were installed in our trucks! Does the dealer add oil once the receive the vehicle from the factory?
Yes. The Euro 4 has been in place since 2005. I think that is when they started with DPF in Europe. Euro 5a for diesel started in 2009, then 5b in 2011, so the SCR and AdBlue DEF started around that time. They are now on Euro 6.Does the Italian Jeep have the SCR and DPF that we have?
I did ask him about the oxidation test. He told me that the oxidation is a part of the "insolubles %". He said that a number over 0.5% was high. Blackstone performs the test differently.Next time you talk to them it would be interesting to ask them his view of the usefulness of the oxidation test and why they choose not to include it intheir standard package. Good to hear that they and Oil Analyzers both think the factory fill is different from the Ultra Euro L. At least we are getting consistent info. It could be a different oil completely as you have suggested or I suppose it could be Euro L with an additional breakin additive which could be why FCA does not recommend a first early oil change. Just my speculation but logically could hang together.
Purely speculation on my part based on nothing more than internet research.Now I have learned something new. I never heard of that oil here in the states, but it makes perfect sense as to why there is different oil from the factory. How did you learn of this? It would be great to get a baseline sample from that oil company & have it analyzed to see if it matches...
It is also possible to have some additional fuel dilution if the sample was taken during a DPF REGEN or immediately following.Blackstone said the same thing about fuel content in my oil. I don't let it idle much & I pulled my sample hot also...
Thanks for sharing the results with T6.For a point of reference, this is the latest oil analysis done on the GDE development truck. Ten thousand miles completely on the tune running Shell Rotella T6. We run this oil because it is cost affordable and perfectly safe to use on diesel engines with DPF. Fuel dilution is very low thanks to in-frequent regenerations.
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Touching on some of the other questions above in the thread (despite their age), the engines are all shipped full of oil when departing the Cento assembly plant. The last we knew they use an oil from Q8 for the fill after hot test before shipping.