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I’m sure that this has been covered somewhere, someplace, that I can’t seem to find. If so, I apologize in advance.

I’m curious as to how this new SFT ECM/TCM time holds up agains GDE. They make some fairly bold claims, over 30mpg in some cases. Additionally, all the work is done through the owners OBD2 instead of mailing out the ECM.

Package deal for the SFT tune is $1000, which includes the ECM and TCM tune, (stage 1 and stage 2 (off-road) are same price.)

GDE offers no package deal, and after adding the off-road option, ($100) would put the total cost around $1300-$1400 depending on features added, like high idle, turbo brake, etc.

I’d love to trust this new company, SFT, but I’m skeptical. Does anyone have experience with SFT’s tunes? Id like input from any owners running tunes who have looked into it, regardless of what tune you run (GDE, SFT, PPEI)

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No need for apology. The search feature sucks!

The GDE tune is well established, makes no false claims and offers excellent support.

SFT is the new kid on the block and tends to make CRAZY claims which is always a turn-off for me.

Not sure what year truck you have, but if it's eligible for the EPA settlement I suggest staying away from any tune installed via the OBD port.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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Well your talking a 400.00 difference, When I purchased a GDE tune I had an issue,they helped me trouble shoot the issue sent me a new def injector and called me back to make sure I was happy and my truck was running correctly.. Good Customer service and actual folks who know this trucks platform inside and out is well worth the 400.00 extra in IMOP... Just for their support....
 

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I'm a big believer in you get what you pay for. Here you've got actual software engineers that used to work for FCA, compared to someone who claims to be U.S. Combat Veteran Owned and Operated when they're not.

Take a look at the list of modifications to the ECM tune on each website and it's easy to see who has put in the work. Should your tune need troubleshooting, are you gonna turn to software engineers or the new kid on the block that think's it's cool to put the F bomb in his company's URL?
 

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Pretty sure you'll get 30 mpg with the GDE tune if, and this is a big if, you keep speeds to 65 mph and under. My Ram with 3:92's will get around 34 mpg if I keep it at 55 mph. My last tank was 33.4 mpg hand calculated= 739 miles and used only 22.082 gallons. 33.466 mpg. Much of that was a trip to northern Maine in very heavy rain, 65 and under, though speed limit was 75 mph much of the way. EVIC showed 32.4 mpg, btw. GDE Hot Tune with Regen Message and DEF deleted. Trip included one regen.
 

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“software engineers or the new kid on the block that think's it's cool to put the F bomb in his company's url”

I was thinking the same thing. As a service member I understand the dark sense of humor and vulgarity of the veteran community (and participate in it heavily), However, it’s a business and not a bar, and seemed very unprofessional. Nevertheless I was curious as to what people have experienced with them. After reading these, I wholeheartedly intend to go with GDE after all of the reviews I’ve read, and as mentioned, I’d pay the extra money for good service.

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One of the things I like about SFT is the ability to go back to stock tune anytime. Once FCA warranties our trucks, I'm sure getting a tune would void it.
A quote from GDE:

The flash tool leaves a footprint via flash counter, this could be an issue with warranty if dealer checks it. That is a benefit for bench flashing ecms, not change in flash counter.
 

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I'm a big believer in you get what you pay for. Here you've got actual software engineers that used to work for FCA, compared to someone who claims to be U.S. Combat Veteran Owned and Operated when they're not.

Take a look at the list of modifications to the ECM tune on each website and it's easy to see who has put in the work. Should your tune need troubleshooting, are you gonna turn to software engineers or the new kid on the block that think's it's cool to put the F bomb in his company's URL?
Agree.100% and as a combat Vet I will say advertising as 'Veteran Owned' is more than sufficient. Most of us NEVER talk about it...some things a man must take to his grave. If however, he is an authentic CV...seems odd to market oneself using an experience of such tragedy to so many civilians.

It is the guys running around telling war stories or claiming combat service that typically are in the 'Stolen Valor' crowd.....IDK...just MO...

OP...GDE w/o question...and for transparency it is my understanding they are a sponsor of this site.
 

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I was thinking the same thing. As a service member I understand the dark sense of humor and vulgarity of the veteran community (and participate in it heavily), However, it’s a business and not a bar, and seemed very unprofessional. e
Same. Know your audience, and there's a place and time for everything.

As an Infantry vet I take his claims very seriously. Someone else posted his service history and claimed stolen valor. Not cool.
 

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Yeah, everyone knows from my tag what my status is. But it's there because its what the kids call me. The stolen valor thing bugs me, but what bugs me more is the whole attempt at what may be affinity fraud. "Hey, you can trust me because I'm a vet just like you." Riiiiiight. We see this junk a lot in Utah, but mostly through church.

I'll go with GDE after the AEM dust has settled and their engineers have figured out what the new tune needs.

I don't mean to imply that this fella isn't honest, I just happen to live in a place where because of the nearly weekly burns we hear about when someone says, "I'm like you, trust me," everyone tends to run away first and ask questions later.
 

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It is the guys running around telling war stories or claiming combat service that typically are in the 'Stolen Valor' crowd.....IDK...just MO..
I've always thought this as well. Be humble, no need to advertise. It's the quiet ones you should watch lol.
 

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Reads like "Sofa King Tune" ( you can play the name game but this it all the website says that I could find) started up late last year. So, with maybe a 1/2 year experience, they market the tune. Noticed only one evaluation that was brief and related to power. One comment was he drag-raced a Duramax and won.

If pushing the limits of your engine is your thing then SFT or PPEI tuning might be an option. If you want to run and run and run cleanly with few issues - GDE. The decision and possible risk is yours.
 

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I'm not sure SFT is even worthy of a comparison with PPEI as far as making decent power numbers.

The owner of SFT spammed this forum early on and was offered vendor status to continue. Seems he chose otherwise. Hmmmm....
 
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