I you do a bit of searching here you will find that recalls have been sent out for those that will be having the HPFP replaced. Stellerantics has a solution, upgraded pump. Now when that they are supposed to appear is up in the air, some say mid 2023, some say towards the end of the year. I'm believing they are hoping we all drive over a cliff so they don't have to replace the pumps.
The HPFP recall on ecodiesel RAM and Jeep
Hi, I want to talk about the following recall,
Recall Description
Some 2014-2020 MY Jeep Grand Cherokee vehicles equipped with a 3.0L diesel engine may have been built with a high pressure fuel pump ("HPFP") that could fail prematurely. A HPFP failure may introduce internally failed component debris into the fuel system potentially causing fuel starvation.
I called FCA/Stellantis and they said that that recall has not had any solution for it yet. With that said, if we deleted the EGR and some others and then the recall has the solution some time after the deletion, would we still be eligible for the recall? I am thinking of deleting the EGR or enough components that cause the engine to die too soon while hopefully also maintaining colorless smoke. Thinking of doing it soon before too much soots get stuck in the engine.
Also, with the rest of the other recalls having been done, are they enough for us not to consider emission system deletion to have durable enough engine?
Thank you very much in advance!
Recall Description
Some 2014-2020 MY Jeep Grand Cherokee vehicles equipped with a 3.0L diesel engine may have been built with a high pressure fuel pump ("HPFP") that could fail prematurely. A HPFP failure may introduce internally failed component debris into the fuel system potentially causing fuel starvation.
I called FCA/Stellantis and they said that that recall has not had any solution for it yet. With that said, if we deleted the EGR and some others and then the recall has the solution some time after the deletion, would we still be eligible for the recall? I am thinking of deleting the EGR or enough components that cause the engine to die too soon while hopefully also maintaining colorless smoke. Thinking of doing it soon before too much soots get stuck in the engine.
Also, with the rest of the other recalls having been done, are they enough for us not to consider emission system deletion to have durable enough engine?
Thank you very much in advance!
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I just picked up a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel with 92k km on it a few days ago. All of the other recalls have already been done by the dealership. Would you suggest that I hold the emission system deletion or wait until that pump arrives? The car feels just fine at the moment but I am a bit worried about the soots piling up over time still.I you do a bit of searching here you will find that recalls have been sent out for those that will be having the HPFP replaced. Stellerantics has a solution, upgraded pump. Now when that they are supposed to appear is up in the air, some say mid 2023, some say towards the end of the year. I'm believing they are hoping we all drive over a cliff so they don't have to replace the pumps.
The Z46 recall is a safety recall. As long as your truck runs and is registered they have to complete the recall (changing the pump).
Of course he will have to have a tune to do this. If he returns it back to stock "Tune" without the "parts' re installed will the codes affect the whole process ? If not returned to stock he runs the risk of having his tune written over. Just some things to think about before and not after..The Z46 recall is a safety recall. As long as your truck runs and is registered they have to complete the recall (changing the pump).
So let's say a stage 1 delete has been done with a tuner with no physical components altered. When the HPFP recall is ready and is then being done at a dealership, is it going to override the program? And are we going to have to buy a new tuner that recognizes the new pump? Thank you
I believe GDE say no flash will be necessary. But, Some dealers do an update flash B/C its easy and they get paid by the Factory to do it.So let's say a stage 1 delete has been done with a tuner with no physical components altered. When the HPFP recall is ready and is then being done at a dealership, is it going to override the program? And are we going to have to buy a new tuner that recognizes the new pump? Thank you
Anytime anyone who has a tune and doesn't return it to stock EVERYTIME you visit a dealer is asking for trouble. Any dealer PCM flash will kill your tune and you'll end up bricking your tuner when you try to reinstall your tune.
I'm no expert on deleting or returning deletes to stock. However, some Cummins deleters reported they researched dealers until they found one who would do their pump recall without a flash.
I'm no expert on deleting or returning deletes to stock. However, some Cummins deleters reported they researched dealers until they found one who would do their pump recall without a flash.
It looks like all of diesel cars have this problem, but I guess the ecodiesel has it the worst?Anytime anyone who has a tune and doesn't return it to stock EVERYTIME you visit a dealer is asking for trouble. Any dealer PCM flash will kill your tune and you'll end up bricking your tuner when you try to reinstall your tune.
I'm no expert on deleting or returning deletes to stock. However, some Cummins deleters reported they researched dealers until they found one who would do their pump recall without a flash.
I don't think it matters what manufacturer it is. A tune is a tune..It looks like all of diesel cars have this problem, but I guess the ecodiesel has it the worst?
Hi: coztex... I wouldn't concern myself to much. I'm into my second year with the recall paper sitting on my desk. The worst that can happen is "An unexpected loss of motive power followed by a vehicle crash without prior warning" NO BIGGIE!!! LoL. Remember... don't back up to fast cause Stella Antics is standing behind your truck!!!It looks like all of diesel cars have this problem, but I guess the ecodiesel has it the worst?
How can something that looks so good... be so bad?
Dieseldragon North shore of Lake Erie.
I guess I am glad I did not have to buy the CA$ 4200 4-year extended warranty as Stellantic is kinda reponsible forever? /:Hi: coztex... I wouldn't concern myself to much. I'm into my second year with the recall paper sitting on my desk. The worst that can happen is "An unexpected loss of motive power followed by a vehicle crash without prior warning" NO BIGGIE!!! LoL. Remember... don't back up to fast cause Stella Antics is standing behind your truck!!!
How can something that looks so good... be so bad? View attachment 94643
Dieseldragon North shore of Lake Erie.
The other option I recommend is to get yourself a second ECM from an auto recycler for $250 and swap ECM's for every dealer visit. This is once you have your original ECM tuned.
Do we swap the ECM ourself or using technician?The other option I recommend is to get yourself a second ECM from an auto recycler for $250 and swap ECM's for every dealer visit. This is once you have your original ECM tuned.
Do it yourself, that way you know it's done before you get there and when you get home, not a difficult job at all.
You can swap it yourself in about 15 minutes after some practice. This is on a Ram 1500, I’m not sure how long a Jeep would take.
You’ll also have to get alpha OBD which is an app for your phone to be able to program the ECM with updated injector codes as well as a bypass cable in order to reprogram the injector codes. Both are about $50 and necessary if your tuning you ride.
You’ll also have to get alpha OBD which is an app for your phone to be able to program the ECM with updated injector codes as well as a bypass cable in order to reprogram the injector codes. Both are about $50 and necessary if your tuning you ride.
Hi: Rye&coke... I went to see Stella Antics service dept. today with Z46 recall in hand. Got a 1-800- # to call. I told them "Fat lot of good that will do". They said "If a nuff folks call that might hurry things along. YA RIGHT!!! If this is "Urgent"... I'm a minky's uncle.You can swap it yourself in about 15 minutes after some practice. This is on a Ram 1500, I’m not sure how long a Jeep would take.
You’ll also have to get alpha OBD which is an app for your phone to be able to program the ECM with updated injector codes as well as a bypass cable in order to reprogram the injector codes. Both are about $50 and necessary if your tuning you ride.
Dieseldragon North shore of Lake Erie.
I am getting my tuner from MrTuning in Canada. Is it a good one? $850 though.
Is an Oil Catch Can also really necessary for maximum engine lifespan?
Is an Oil Catch Can also really necessary for maximum engine lifespan?
Good tune, I like having the catch can, not really sure how much it'll help engine longevity, but it sure keeps the plumbing in better shape 
I have both the JGC & Ram with the ecodiesel... the JGC IMO is even easier since it isn't located on the firewall like the ram.You can swap it yourself in about 15 minutes after some practice. This is on a Ram 1500, I’m not sure how long a Jeep would take.
You’ll also have to get alpha OBD which is an app for your phone to be able to program the ECM with updated injector codes as well as a bypass cable in order to reprogram the injector codes. Both are about $50 and necessary if your tuning you ride.
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