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I would be curious to hear forum member thoughts about your truck's value after the AEM. Things to consider, the universal feedback is that the AEM turns our rigs in to gutless wonders. At this point, it seems that there are three options:

1: Keep your truck and live with it....Pray you don't get smashed pulling into traffic

2: Keep your truck and let the Saint's at GDE work their magic

3: Unload it before the value really tanks as word gets out

My guess, is that stealerships will offer bottom dollar claiming the value is lower because of the lack of power. As a consumer, if I was researching these trucks I would not purchase one due to the de-tuning that has clearly occurred with the AEM flash. One final question, how many of you are planning to unload your rig after you get your AEM check? I plan to unload it as soon I get paid by FCA. My truck is paid off and I would like to salvage the equity towards a new purchase before the value crashes...just my speculation/thoughts.
 

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Hi: HollyWoodGriz... I'm keeping it. "Love the one you're with"!!! 4 more years of "Payola"... but I'm in no hurry to "Flash" my EcoD either.
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Things to consider, the universal feedback is that the AEM turns our rigs in to gutless wonders.
I think it's a bit premature to say AEM turns the vehicle into a "gutless wonder". There are not many reports yet. And there are some that say there's no change.

In any event, I will keep my truck and after the AEM update put my GDE tuned ECM back in play. I'm more than pleased with all aspects of my truck. I should add I have invested a considerable sum in aftermarket add-ons and mods that influence my decision to keep it.

I do suspect the AEM update may eventually prove to result in a power reduction, a mpg reduction and an overall dissatisfaction.
Time will tell.
 

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I would be curious to hear forum member thoughts about your truck's value after the AEM. Things to consider, the universal feedback is that the AEM turns our rigs in to gutless wonders. At this point, it seems that there are three options:

1: Keep your truck and live with it....Pray you don't get smashed pulling into traffic

2: Keep your truck and let the Saint's at GDE work their magic

3: Unload it before the value really tanks as word gets out

My guess, is that stealerships will offer bottom dollar claiming the value is lower because of the lack of power. As a consumer, if I was researching these trucks I would not purchase one due to the de-tuning that has clearly occurred with the AEM flash. One final question, how many of you are planning to unload your rig after you get your AEM check? I plan to unload it as soon I get paid by FCA. My truck is paid off and I would like to salvage the equity towards a new purchase before the value crashes...just my speculation/thoughts.
What would make a truck value tank when some will have a 10 year transferable extensive warranty? Mine will have 4/48k after flash and could be warrantied up till 250k?
 

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Just running rough numbers, but my ecodiesel has lost a much larger % of the original purchase price in depreciation than my 2011 1500 z71 or 2010 cummins did.
 

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Yet another 'sky is falling' post to spread fear.

Instead of fear-mongering with nothing more than a hunch, why not come here with some real appraisal values before and after the AEM? Some market research perhaps?
You will never have data worth a plug nickle till you sell your ecodiesel.

2011 Chevy 1500 z71 sold with 53,000 miles on it and 3 years old. I sold it for 14% less than I paid for it.

2010 RAM 3500 SRW sold with appx. 30,000 miles on it 2.5 years old. I sold it for 10% less than I paid for it.

My Current ecodiesel just over 3 years old and just under 67k miles books for about 40% less than I paid for it.

I love this truck, but this is not fear mongering and its not sky is falling, its the truth. I'd consider it loosing my AZZ if I were to sell my truck for what it books for, and no none of the value websites are worth a carp until you find a buyer and sell it, but judjing by the massive discounts they were giving on the later models I see no reason at all to believe that ill get more than what its booking for. I plan to drive mine a lot longer because I can take the pay out and put a new motor in it out of pocket and still be out about what I would be if I sold it running... which does suck as far as holding its value goes.
 

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You will never have data worth a plug nickle till you sell your ecodiesel.

2011 Chevy 1500 z71 sold with 53,000 miles on it and 3 years old. I sold it for 14% less than I paid for it.

2010 RAM 3500 SRW sold with appx. 30,000 miles on it 2.5 years old. I sold it for 10% less than I paid for it.

My Current ecodiesel just over 3 years old and just under 67k miles books for about 40% less than I paid for it.

I love this truck, but this is not fear mongering and its not sky is falling, its the truth. I'd consider it loosing my AZZ if I were to sell my truck for what it books for, and no none of the value websites are worth a carp until you find a buyer and sell it, but judjing by the massive discounts they were giving on the later models I see no reason at all to believe that ill get more than what its booking for. I plan to drive mine a lot longer because I can take the pay out and put a new motor in it out of pocket and still be out about what I would be if I sold it running... which does suck as far as holding its value goes.
These comparisons are dubious at best...

First, that 3500 Cummins hd truck is barely used. HD trucks lightly used do not depreciate that much. Huge demand for them from contractors etc...

The closest you have is your 2011 Chevy. Still it's dubious for a number of reasons...

First, you may have gotten a great deal on the Chevy.

Second you may have gotten a crap deal on the eco.

Third... Combine both 1 and 2.

Fourth, how are you valuing your eco? Has any cash traded hands or are you going on dealer trade in? I was offered 24k on a 48k truck 1 yr after I bought it. That's laughable and inaccurate. I see used ecos going for decent amounts.

Fifth, you can always find a sucker. I would never offer that much for a used Chevy 1500... Ever.
 

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Plus, I find the kbb or black book values on the eco are problematic. There are not a lot of them out there and they often are valued similarly to the gas trucks, which there are a ton of.

In addition, Chrysler is running monstruous incentives on new ones. This hurts resale. So it is not the truck itself that could be causing a depression in resale value.
 

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Whatever you think of the comparisons that’s what they were. I got good deals on all of them I shop price pretty hard. The resale of the ecodiesel sucks major behind compared to the others. Largely in part I think because the rebates given on the later production ecodiesels. Many bought new 17’s and 18’s for less than comparable 14 15 and 16’s sold for. It is a recipe for huge depreciation.
 

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Well that could be. But the way this was made to sound was that the truck is not viewed as a good vehicle so resale sucked.

New truck rebates and lower prices hit resale value for sure. I think this thing is still a far better value that any gm or Ford product. By far.
 

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My 2014 longhorn had an MSRP of about $54k. I paid $42500 out the door plus tax.

I traded the truck on 5/10 for a special order limited that will probably arrive about 7/1. My truck had just under 70k miles. KBB trade-in in excellent condition on that day was $26500. Shopping around at three different dealers I was offered $24600-26000 real money.

The best bottom line was from a dealer that offered $25500 trade in value. And, yes, he did voice some concerns about the possible effects the AEM was going to have on the resale value. He offered an option of using the KBB value when my new vehicle came in or take the $1k hit.

40% depreciation from what I actually paid or 53% from MSRP. Did the AEM enter into the value? Who knows but Talking to the different dealers, I can tell you for sure the market is nervous. How much of an impact it will have in the near future is debatable.
 

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Plus, I find the kbb or black book values on the eco are problematic. There are not a lot of them out there and they often are valued similarly to the gas trucks, which there are a ton of.

In addition, Chrysler is running monstruous incentives on new ones. This hurts resale. So it is not the truck itself that could be causing a depression in resale value.
KBB is showing $1350 premium for the ecodiesel over a gasser for my 2014 at trade-in value.
 

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The above normal value decline started after the EPA thing was announced back in January of 2017. It is no surprise to anyone that the "fix" hurts performance, MPGs or both. Your best bet is to just enjoy the truck any way you can and if it bothers you that much, get the aftermarket tune and enjoy the money you got.
 

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So, $3,000 and an awesome warrantee... Subtract the cost of the GDE Hot Tune $700, sounds like a win to me, you lucky bastids, hehe. The way that I look at it, if you take care of your truck, a Ram dealer will give you a fair trade in. My last 2005 Ram had 276,000 miles, was tuned (race cam, headers, cat back,Vararam, nitrous, Dyno Tuned, etc) and I had raced it a bazillion times. Dealer gave me top dollar $10,500 trade and $6,000 off the trade when I bought my Ecodiesel. My old Ram, sold the day I traded to a Hellcat owner for $10,500. My feeling, if you keep it looking mint and it drives like new, eventually you'll be able to get top dollar. The best vehicle that I ever owned, btw! Paid $24,999 new in 05!
 

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In my opinion if you are buying new vehicles as an investment, you might want to rethink your investment strategy. I consider my vehicle purchases like going to a movie. I know I am not going to have anything left for my money and will enjoy it while I have it. The last new vehicle I bought was a 93 ford f350 with a diesel in it. It has over 400k on it and the dealer did not even want it on their lot for a trade in. I intend to do the same with my 15 eco. Drive it until the wheels fall off and either get rid of it or keep it as a spare like I did with the 93. Makes no difference as it will have no value left. I enjoy driving my 15 and will just keep it running as long as I can.

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