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What color is your Kool-Aid (coolant)?

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#1 ·
Since there are so many other threads relating to coolant, I thought that I would post this separately.

There has been much controversy regarding the color of our coolant and questions as to how many types there are. Reports of pink/orange to purple are to be found in many of the posts here and some speculation, but not solid data, as to the so called chameleon coolant that changes colors. I did see one post with photos, but they were not taken under controlled conditions. Because of that, I have been as confused as most of you are and wanted a believable answer.

Without doing a lab experiment, I wanted to keep the conditions as controlled as possible. I waited for overcast, actually rainy, weather as a control on ambient light color temperature for the following photos. Both were taken at the same time of the day to insure the best possible control over the lighting. One was taken with the engine hot (about 200F) and the other cold (about 50F).

The results show what I was not expecting.. I had attributed the observed color changes, by various posters, to be caused by the difference between transmitted light and reflected light. That the coolant was temperature sensitive was not something that I could get a handle on. As the photos demonstrate, I was wrong. I am fascinated as to why FCA would go to the trouble of adding temperature sensitive dye to the coolant, but perhaps it’s an easy check as to whether or not the user has been running the proper coolant.



To address the issue of the number of types of coolant there are for our engines, I did a bit of searching on the internet. I found that both material specifications MS-12106 and MS-90032 point to Chrysler Part No. 68163848AA. So, it appears that the material specification has changed, but the actual coolant is the same. I speculated, in another thread, that this could be to keep ahead of the aftermarket coolant manufacturers and sell more MOPAR product or possibly for other yet unknown reasons.



There are more coolant questions to be answered, but I hope that this answers some of them.
 
#2 ·
The entire first year I had my truck mine always seemed to be purple. It was just recent that I noticed it pink and wondered what happened. It does return to purple after it warms up as you show. After a year, I am down to the low mark for some reason and I really don't know what to add. I doubt I will visit the dealer and pay their ridiculous price. I did see somewhere else that Peak Global I think was approved. I have also had good experience buying from dealers out west, at least on my last Ford. They seem to offer better prices for some reason so maybe I'll try that. Thanks for illustrating this phenomenon.
 
#5 ·
50 shades of coolant.

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Same with me. Top, cold 50 degrees. Bottom, operating temperature.
 
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That's the new environmental coolant to allow California entry and compliance. That way, while playing pokey man while driving and then crashing into things, spillage is within the new standards that allow you total escape from prosecution for your behavior.

Color it filled. That's all you really need to know.
 
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Wow....does not look good to me. Assuming that its not sludge from a mix with oil, I'd get that stuff out of there. If all your service has been at the dealer, I'd get it back to them. If you or another mechanic added the wrong coolant, I'd flush and switch it over to the correct fluid as soon as possible. I'm not a fan of the 'one-size-fits-all' aftermarket coolants. These days there are so many types of metals that coolant comes in contact with, its important to run the specified coolant.
 
#18 ·
I'm pretty sure that we use the Purple coolant because our block isn't aluminum or iron, it's a carbon fiber / cast iron alloy which is fairly unique.
 
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Ben I wanted the other bottle , the one not premixed , full strenght OAT , but my dealer didn't have that in stock , he said he could get it , but special order
so if you want the good stuff not pre-mixed with water , you may have to order ahead of time , from your parts dept. don't know the price of that one
OR buy OAT from somewhere else ,
just make sure it is OAT , you know what happens if you mix OAT with HOAT .
 

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#35 ·
just make sure it is OAT , you know what happens if you mix OAT with HOAT .
Kazi my degas tank was low so i added some Peak 50/50 i had in the garage. Didn't bother to think about mixing potentially incompatible coolants. The bottle says compatible in all automobiles regardless of make/model/year and mixes with any color antifreeze/coolant. But the ingredients clearly call out Water/Ethylene Glycol (107-21-1). Some googling has turned up plenty of pictures of gel that results from mixing the two. I didnt use much, just enough to raise the degas tank level an inch or so. I dont see any adverse effects/gel'ing in the degas tank yet.

Thoughts? Should i have the system flushed?
 
#32 ·
Grover, I was going to mention Ben28881 , he purchased a jug of the pure stuff , not the 50/50 stuff
it was just a little more $$ than the 50/50 , but you cannot buy some from him , he was so succesfull
at " not losing coolant " in his 3 way valve replacement , he said he would bring back the jug for refund ...
if you can get the pure stuff , choose that , why pay for half a jug of distilled water , at $58.11 CDN / a jug
when a jug of distilled water is 97 cents at Walmart .
 
#33 ·
Wow, you are paying close attention! You are right, before and after the valve replacement my coolant level was at the seam. I asked them to top it off anyway, and they brought it up to the fill line. I think I’ll lose a little out the vent/overflow again when I tow in the summer and get the temps ups really high.
 
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HOAT = Hybrid Organic Acid Technology , does it say that anywhere on your Peak bottle ?
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I have no clue as to how long it takes for the jello clogging to happen when the 2 different
coolants are mixed together , or how much of each coolant it takes ,
where does the jello first start ??
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I don't know enough to
actually give you advice on the flush , those new technology complicate things .....
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if the water pump would clog as in images , I imagine you would feel the
effects on the temperature side , the tube that goes to the driver side of the
degas bottle brings coolant from the water pump , it is easy to rig a little clear tube
to add at that location , just for a while to see flow of coolant , soon as you
start the engine you should see the coolant go up from water pump to the
degas bottle.turn off engine and it goes back down in the tube same height
as in degas bottle when things are operating normally.
Could be useless test , only if fully clogged would you notice that the
coolant does not go up .