I will try to address both gentlemen's questions.

GDE's purpose is to improve the driving experience of the vehicles we tune, including better fuel economy, less turbo lag, more responsive and significantly quicker. GDE uses one power/torque rating as it can be designed to function with the factory overheat protection logic for coolant, oil, trans, exhaust and intake temps. The corrections have multipliers and altitude compensation factors that link back to the base torque mapping. In this manner, the tune backs off fueling in high load, worst case trailer towing if temps reach factory limits. I am not aware of any other tuners in the after-market that test and design the calibration with similar methodology.

Most of the SOTF tuning by-passes the safeties and some advance main timing more. Both of these will lead to higher cylinder pressures and change the crank angle when peak pressure is achieved. We have tested several engine tunes and many different engine platforms with cylinder pressure measure via an instrumented glow plug. Those 60 horse tunes on the gen2 ecodiesel are not doing your engines any favors if you hammer down.

 

The MRTUNING SOTF bypass absolutely nothing, it even have different safety limiter per tune level, and SOTF definately improve the driving experience, it's a blast to drive.

 

For my ignorant self, I guess I am looking at the SOTF in the same way I used to look at my Superchips/Diablo tuners for my previous trucks. You could push a tune that was better for towing, a tune that is better for fuel economy or a tune that was better for performance. Perhaps technology and engineering is advanced to the point that all these are actually rolled into a single tune with @GDE and there is no need for separate tunes? I don't know.
At least one tuner offers a stage 1 tune in 20hp / 40hp. I don't know what the advantages of the 20hp tune is over the 40hp tune or vice-versa, but I would think that there must be something different, otherwise why would they offer the option? If there is a difference, then the SOTF would make sense to me. Also, (and I am just thinking out loud here because I have no idea if this is possible) if you were able to SOTF to a different tune that turns on/off the DEF or Turbo Braking or (insert option here) for whatever reason....then SOTF would make sense to me as well.

 

For my ignorant self, I guess I am looking at the SOTF in the same way I used to look at my Superchips/Diablo tuners for my previous trucks. You could push a tune that was better for towing, a tune that is better for fuel economy or a tune that was better for performance. Perhaps technology and engineering is advanced to the point that all these are actually rolled into a single tune with @GDE and there is no need for separate tunes? I don't know.
At least one tuner offers a stage 1 tune in 20hp / 40hp. I don't know what the advantages of the 20hp tune is over the 40hp tune or vice-versa, but I would think that there must be something different, otherwise why would they offer the option? If there is a difference, then the SOTF would make sense to me. Also, (and I am just thinking out loud here because I have no idea if this is possible) if you were able to SOTF to a different tune that turns on/off the DEF or Turbo Braking or (insert option here) for whatever reason....then SOTF would make sense to me as well.

I can do all of this with my SOTF, I can add, remove any option on any level.

 

Good stuff here.... thanks for posting GDE... nice to learn a bit more about my tune. 😍

 

Trying to understand here....

GDE, if stock safeties are enabled on a tune, shouldn't that keep everything in check?

Do you purchase and test other's tunes and check B50 and B90 data? Hard numbers would be nice. Instead of throwing accusations, give customers some accurate comparisons. I wish I had seen some hard numbers on the Reckless Randy's joke of a tune!

If I were selling a tune, I would have hard data on why my tune was better than anyone else's. Unless it really wasn't......

I don't understand why you are always bad mouthing MR Tuning or "the tune from up north". You do not sell a delete tune, so comparison to that tune is a moot point. Compare your tune to his emissions intact tune. Things I have read concerning what you say about MR Tuning is why I went with Reckless. Thanks for nothing...

 

Trying to understand here....

GDE, if stock safeties are enabled on a tune, shouldn't that keep everything in check?

Do you purchase and test other's tunes and check B50 and B90 data? Hard numbers would be nice. Instead of throwing accusations, give customers some accurate comparisons. I wish I had seen some hard numbers on the Reckless Randy's joke of a tune!

If I were selling a tune, I would have hard data on why my tune was better than anyone else's. Unless it really wasn't......

I don't understand why you are always bad mouthing MR Tuning or "the tune from up north". You do not sell a delete tune, so comparison to that tune is a moot point. Compare your tune to his emissions intact tune. Things I have read concerning what you say about MR Tuning is why I went with Reckless. Thanks for nothing...

We certainly would not recommend reckless, not sure where that came from. The testing we do cost hundred's of thousands, can't afford to do the same testing on competitor tuning. Buy the MRTune and we can review it for you if desired. I am sure the competitor's do not have that data, it was in jest.

 

Initial impressions:

Finally got my ECU back and drove the truck a good bit today. This is a very good tune. I got the stage 1 delete tune and there is very little smoke. I have not gotten information on his transmission tune yet. The below figures are with the stock factory transmission tune. The only issue I have had is that the "DPF filter is nearly full" is showing up in the instrument cluster. I disconnected a sensor and that is supposed to fix the problem after I get the fault code erased. Not any instruction or guidance prior on what to disconnect but he does respond to texts.

0-60 = 6.68, 1/4 mile = 14.82@91.84

Much faster than Reckless's tune .
Boost is stable at cruise and there is no turbo flutter at all.
I think I will start a separate thread on the MR Tune Review instead of having it under this heading.

 

Initial impressions:

Finally got my ECU back and drove the truck a good bit today. This is a very good tune. I got the stage 1 delete tune and there is very little smoke. I have not gotten information on his transmission tune yet. The below figures are with the stock factory transmission tune. The only issue I have had is that the "DPF filter is nearly full" is showing up in the instrument cluster. I disconnected a sensor and that is supposed to fix the problem after I get the fault code erased. Not any instruction or guidance prior on what to disconnect but he does respond to texts.

0-60 = 6.68, 1/4 mile = 14.82@91.84

Much faster than Reckless's tune .
Boost is stable at cruise and there is no turbo flutter at all.
I think I will start a separate thread on the MR Tune Review instead of having it under this heading.

You still have the filter and such in the stock exhaust with this tune? pardone my ignorance but coulding this message be coming up because the tune is in fact plugging up the exhaust much faster with that "smoke" since I would have to think the exhaust on this deleted/tuned truck would not be as clean? And wouldnt the issue just continue to just get worse with the filter in there whether the sensor is plugged in and reporting it or not? I would think it would plug even faster since there is no catylist cycle to burn it out and clean it regularly? Maybe im missing something and am off base here.
Again I am no expert on this and even less knowlegeable than most on the DPF and exhaust setup because all that was removed from mine by a previous owner and it was sold to me this way from the dealer.

 

GDE can you do us all a solid and move outside the US to get back in the stage 2 game?

 

LOL not happening, you will have to stick with the rookies for now on if looking for illegal tuning. This stuff is illegal in Canada as well, they are just not enforcing it yet.

 

No, all exhaust components were removed but some of the sensors that were in the exhaust I just zip tied up. You need to actually disconnect them from the harness.

 

My old thread.... Thought I would give an update. I recently got Martins SOF tune on a second ecm. Pretty neat but has one glaring flaw. It resets to stock tuning every time the vehicle is started. So you have to select which tune you want every time you start the vehicle. I much prefer the regular 50hp tune that is the only tune on the ecm. Its the best all around tune. Maybe @GDE will get back in the game with the current administration. Good to have options and competition. At present, Martins delete tune is tops if you want to delete.

 

I recently got Martins sofa tune on a second ecm. Pretty neat but has one glaring flaw. It resets to stock tuning every time the vehicle is started. So you have to select which tune you want every time you start the vehicle.

I think you mean Martin's (MRtuning) SOF tune, not sofa tune lol. Sofa tune refers to a trash tuner that has gone out of business.

This 'flaw' you refer to only means you're at stock power level when the truck starts, then you select higher power levels easily enough. I wouldn't call it a flaw. If taking the time to push a button bothers you, well I wish I had your problems