[MRTuning]

For my ignorant self, I guess I am looking at the SOTF in the same way I used to look at my Superchips/Diablo tuners for my previous trucks. You could push a tune that was better for towing, a tune that is better for fuel economy or a tune that was better for performance. Perhaps technology and engineering is advanced to the point that all these are actually rolled into a single tune with @GDE and there is no need for separate tunes? I don't know.
At least one tuner offers a stage 1 tune in 20hp / 40hp. I don't know what the advantages of the 20hp tune is over the 40hp tune or vice-versa, but I would think that there must be something different, otherwise why would they offer the option? If there is a difference, then the SOTF would make sense to me. Also, (and I am just thinking out loud here because I have no idea if this is possible) if you were able to SOTF to a different tune that turns on/off the DEF or Turbo Braking or (insert option here) for whatever reason....then SOTF would make sense to me as well.

I can do all of this with my SOTF, I can add, remove any option on any level.

 

[MRTuning]

You don't. The second gen uses the handheld for the standard tunes. I have no knowledge of what the SOTF requires. If the SOTF can be pushed via the handheld, I am a buyer for sure.

It can be pushed via HPTuner hand held.

 

[MRTuning]

What is the purpose of SOFT tuning? There are no OEMs that do this, manufacturers stick to one tune that works in all conditions.

Plenty of OEM have multiple level, even my sister's civic have an Econo button.... and all the tuning industrie for pick-up truck diesel in North America are based on SOTF, I'm yet to find a single tune for them, they are all ''SOTF'', and why? Because this is what people want. I do agree however the SOTF on a physical switch to trick a sensor is not the way to go, but mine does not work like this.

 

[GDE]

Plenty of OEM have multiple level, even my sister's civic have an Econo button.... and all the tuning industrie for pick-up truck diesel in North America are based on SOTF, I'm yet to find a single tune for them, they are all ''SOTF'', and why? Because this is what people want. I do agree however the SOTF on a physical switch to trick a sensor is not the way to go, but mine does not work like this.

The modes on most OEMs (Ford, GM and Chrysler) are different transmission logic for shift points, lock-up schedule, they to not change engine power levels above the SAE rating they certify at. Some will reduce power/torque in warm-up conditions, or if overheating occurs. The only companies doing multiple power levels are BMW, Mercedes, etc on high end vehicles. Again there, they certify the highest rating and the lower ratings are for less experienced drivers, so they do not hurt themselves. Do you measure cylinder pressure on your various tunes? How much difference do you see in B90 burn rate for degrees duration and where does B50 occur in the crank angle degree? These will all change for every power level and are critical for determining engine longevity.

 

[MRTuning]

The modes on most OEMs (Ford, GM and Chrysler) are different transmission logic for shift points, lock-up schedule, they to not change engine power levels above the SAE rating they certify at. Some will reduce power/torque in warm-up conditions, or if overheating occurs. The only companies doing multiple power levels are BMW, Mercedes, etc on high end vehicles. Again there, they certify the highest rating and the lower ratings are for less experienced drivers, so they do not hurt themselves. Do you measure cylinder pressure on your various tunes? How much difference do you see in B90 burn rate for degrees duration and where does B50 occur in the crank angle degree? These will all change for every power level and are critical for determining engine longevity.

Yes I measured everything.

 

[GDE]

Yes I measured everything.

Not very detailed there. How about your baseline numbers for the stock tune. What data did you measure for peak firing pressure, B50 timing and B90 duration during a full load sweep? What type of tools do you use to measure this information?

 

[oldsouth]

Trying to understand here....

GDE, if stock safeties are enabled on a tune, shouldn't that keep everything in check?

Do you purchase and test other's tunes and check B50 and B90 data? Hard numbers would be nice. Instead of throwing accusations, give customers some accurate comparisons. I wish I had seen some hard numbers on the Reckless Randy's joke of a tune!

If I were selling a tune, I would have hard data on why my tune was better than anyone else's. Unless it really wasn't......

I don't understand why you are always bad mouthing MR Tuning or "the tune from up north". You do not sell a delete tune, so comparison to that tune is a moot point. Compare your tune to his emissions intact tune. Things I have read concerning what you say about MR Tuning is why I went with Reckless. Thanks for nothing...

 

[GDE]

Trying to understand here....

GDE, if stock safeties are enabled on a tune, shouldn't that keep everything in check?

Do you purchase and test other's tunes and check B50 and B90 data? Hard numbers would be nice. Instead of throwing accusations, give customers some accurate comparisons. I wish I had seen some hard numbers on the Reckless Randy's joke of a tune!

If I were selling a tune, I would have hard data on why my tune was better than anyone else's. Unless it really wasn't......

I don't understand why you are always bad mouthing MR Tuning or "the tune from up north". You do not sell a delete tune, so comparison to that tune is a moot point. Compare your tune to his emissions intact tune. Things I have read concerning what you say about MR Tuning is why I went with Reckless. Thanks for nothing...

We certainly would not recommend reckless, not sure where that came from. The testing we do cost hundred's of thousands, can't afford to do the same testing on competitor tuning. Buy the MRTune and we can review it for you if desired. I am sure the competitor's do not have that data, it was in jest.

 

[oldsouth]

Initial impressions:

Finally got my ECU back and drove the truck a good bit today. This is a very good tune. I got the stage 1 delete tune and there is very little smoke. I have not gotten information on his transmission tune yet. The below figures are with the stock factory transmission tune. The only issue I have had is that the "DPF filter is nearly full" is showing up in the instrument cluster. I disconnected a sensor and that is supposed to fix the problem after I get the fault code erased. Not any instruction or guidance prior on what to disconnect but he does respond to texts.

0-60 = 6.68, 1/4 mile = 14.82@91.84

Much faster than Reckless's tune .
Boost is stable at cruise and there is no turbo flutter at all.
I think I will start a separate thread on the MR Tune Review instead of having it under this heading.

 

[Beckwith24]

GDE can you do us all a solid and move outside the US to get back in the stage 2 game?

 

[GDE]

GDE can you do us all a solid and move outside the US to get back in the stage 2 game?

LOL not happening, you will have to stick with the rookies for now on if looking for illegal tuning. This stuff is illegal in Canada as well, they are just not enforcing it yet.

 

[Augiedoggy]

In my opinion, people like the high HP tunes but know high EGT usually accompanies these tunes when towing. SOTF gives the best of both worlds. High HP options when not towing, and manageable EGT with lower HP tunes when towing.

This is exactly what my nephew does on his older cummins ram with a handheld tuner.

 

[Augiedoggy]

Initial impressions:

Finally got my ECU back and drove the truck a good bit today. This is a very good tune. I got the stage 1 delete tune and there is very little smoke. I have not gotten information on his transmission tune yet. The below figures are with the stock factory transmission tune. The only issue I have had is that the "DPF filter is nearly full" is showing up in the instrument cluster. I disconnected a sensor and that is supposed to fix the problem after I get the fault code erased. Not any instruction or guidance prior on what to disconnect but he does respond to texts.

0-60 = 6.68, 1/4 mile = 14.82@91.84

Much faster than Reckless's tune .
Boost is stable at cruise and there is no turbo flutter at all.
I think I will start a separate thread on the MR Tune Review instead of having it under this heading.

You still have the filter and such in the stock exhaust with this tune? pardone my ignorance but coulding this message be coming up because the tune is in fact plugging up the exhaust much faster with that "smoke" since I would have to think the exhaust on this deleted/tuned truck would not be as clean? And wouldnt the issue just continue to just get worse with the filter in there whether the sensor is plugged in and reporting it or not? I would think it would plug even faster since there is no catylist cycle to burn it out and clean it regularly? Maybe im missing something and am off base here.
Again I am no expert on this and even less knowlegeable than most on the DPF and exhaust setup because all that was removed from mine by a previous owner and it was sold to me this way from the dealer.

 

[oldsouth]

No, all exhaust components were removed but some of the sensors that were in the exhaust I just zip tied up. You need to actually disconnect them from the harness.

 

[John Jensen]

😆 🤣 illegal means lawful you naive person. You do not know what you speak so you should stop speaking Mr smarty pants! Smh! 28 USC 3002 15A 😏.
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Privacy Act of 1974, section 7A1.
Learn who you are before you speaking about legal and illegal.
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Join 29 minutes ago and your first post is senseless and irrelevant. Not much of a contribution. You need to do some research to learn that any unauthorized mod to any vehicle's emissions system or ECM is illegal. Then look up the definition of illegal. Then research GDE, I think you'll find they are not naive. Then think before you post again, we would appreciate contributions, not incorrect and attacking rhetoric.

Edit 5/27
Interesting, his post (#74) is gone

 

[oldsouth]

My old thread.... Thought I would give an update. I recently got Martins SOF tune on a second ecm. Pretty neat but has one glaring flaw. It resets to stock tuning every time the vehicle is started. So you have to select which tune you want every time you start the vehicle. I much prefer the regular 50hp tune that is the only tune on the ecm. Its the best all around tune. Maybe @GDE will get back in the game with the current administration. Good to have options and competition. At present, Martins delete tune is tops if you want to delete.

 

[Bounty Hunter]

I recently got Martins sofa tune on a second ecm. Pretty neat but has one glaring flaw. It resets to stock tuning every time the vehicle is started. So you have to select which tune you want every time you start the vehicle.

I think you mean Martin's (MRtuning) SOF tune, not sofa tune lol. Sofa tune refers to a trash tuner that has gone out of business.

This 'flaw' you refer to only means you're at stock power level when the truck starts, then you select higher power levels easily enough. I wouldn't call it a flaw. If taking the time to push a button bothers you, well I wish I had your problems