Ya, I'm curious to know too. My 2015 is at the dealer right now and it'd be nice to have this addressed also.

 

The first part number is the recall part number the second part number is the warranty replacement part number ….they are identical parts

 

First time my eyes have witnessed an authentic picture of a unicorn…

 

Sweet! This is good news then for us diesel owners.

Thanks for the high resolution pictures too!

 

I do have another question as I was looking at used pumps on eBay for their pictures. How can we tell by physically looking at the pump that it is indeed the "new" pump? Is it the date stamp on that sticker that is the key reference?

 

Good question..I've not really paid attention to the details but some of the older ones had a series 5 or 6 of dots near the fuel inlet and outlet.... the last new one I did only had 2.... I'll see if I can grab another one and see if thats holds true

 

Not sure I would trust purchasing a "new" pump on ebay. If the FCA dealers can't get enough to start taking care of our recalls, how are there any available on ebay?

 

You misunderstood what I'm referring to. I'm not looking to buy a HPFP off eBay. That would be something I certainly wouldn't buy on eBay, more so now or ever.

I was simply using the OLD CP4 (pre-recall/old part#) eBay pictures as reference to compare and contrast differences to the NEW CP4 (post-recall/new part#) that has been posted above by @Crosshairs . If that makes sense.

It's best to clear the air now so when folks get their CP4 replaced, they can physically verify that it is indeed the new (post-recall) pump they have installed in their truck.

I was really hoping for a marking in the casting or a definitive marking on the sticker to tell us that it is indeed the new pump. Basically saying "Hey, I'm the new pump, look at me!" type of thing so customers knew they weren't shafted by a repair that used an OLD/pre-recall pump. Or a shady dealer just marking it in the computer system as done so the recall can magically disappear for that vehicle so they either sell it or not deal with it.

Like the Cummins replacement, you can clearly see the difference between a CP4 and a CP3 pump. So those owners know that the recall was done by simply looking under the hood and verifying.

Besides, I can see this as a realistic question folks will be asking sooner, rather than later.

 

Has anyone gotten the recall done yet? I still see "Parts Unavailable" for Z46 on my 2015

 

Those pumps that @Crosshairs is posting is likely the new pump, but it's best if he explains. Dependent on what information he's allowed to discuss outside of work.

 

Does anyone have a picture of it under the hood location wise?

 

Looking at the front of the engine with the hood open, the HPFP is located on the front right (passenger side) of the engine, behind the small black cover.

 

Not sure how good/reliable these dates are, but at this point it feels like a game of corn hole...

08/15/2023: FCA US will notify dealers and begin notifying owners with the Final Owner letter in phases, starting with the Jeep Wrangler and Jeep Gladiator, on or about 10/24/2023.
FCA US will notify dealers and begin notifying owners with the Final Owner letter of the Ram 1500 on or about 11/21/2023.

 

Not sure how good/reliable these dates are, but at this point it feels like a game of corn hole...

08/15/2023: FCA US will notify dealers and begin notifying owners with the Final Owner letter in phases, starting with the Jeep Wrangler and Jeep Gladiator, on or about 10/24/2023.
FCA US will notify dealers and begin notifying owners with the Final Owner letter of the Ram 1500 on or about 11/21/2023.

Sounds good since I'm only at 17k.

My concern is how to find a good service tech to install since I have heard good and bad about the dealership I bought from. With my low mileage I assume we will hear a lot of good and bad about them by the time my turn comes around...

 

Sounds good since I'm only at 17k.

TCretired, One of my rules in life is, advice is only good when asked for, otherwise, one should keep their mouth shut... well, I'm breaking that rule... I too own a low mileage 2020 gen III... the dumb and stupid thing I did, not keeping my def tank full... It cost me $1600 to replace tank, injector, level indicator, all got crusty... now, I'm keeping that DEF tank topped off with fresh def.... not letting her sit in the garage all the time, and no more short trips...

 

I just spoke to my service manager and they are installing 68631088AA which I’m being told is the new-style pump. I guess I’ll be one of the Guinea pigs to see if this works. Also got the new injectors in today, so they’ll start working on it next week.

 

I have installed several of those pumps, you’ve got nothing to worry about 👍

 

According to the MOPAR site parts are not available for the HPFP, and TONE RING recalls.

 

The HPFP is available, but nothing on the tone ring yet .

 

according to the recall info for my VIN there are no parts available, now, maybe they're doing trucks that have had failures or older to newest IDK, but when I looked up my truck it said no parts available.

 

Everyone's VIN says no parts available ,but I have replaced several under warranty for a low fuel pressure concern , including the one on my Grand Cherokee , which was replaced with the recall part number.

My VIN still shown an open recall with no parts available.

 

Attached is the official documentation.

RECALL 01A, Z46, OR Z96 - 3.0L ENGINE HIGH-PRESSURE FUEL PUMP REPAIR

If you have customer in for service with a 3.0L engine affected by recall 01A, Z46, or Z96, and the repair requires a high-pressure fuel pump, it is appropriate to use current service parts in the repair.

PN 68501449AA (old HPFP) has superseded to PN 68631088AA (new). Additionally, some orders for the new part number (PN 68631088AA) have been filled using the campaign kit PN CSSMZ461AA. If you have received PN CSSMZ461AA it can be used as a current service part.

The customer should NOT be charged for the repair. Submit a warranty claim in RA status with the proper details for approval and payment.

If you have any questions, please reach out to your tech advisor/area manager directly.

 

@diesel85, you and @Crosshairs might find this interesting: RCRIT-23V263-6622.pdf (nhtsa.gov)

 

@biodiesel thank you so much for sharing this information!

I'm a little annoyed that because of this, they basically neutered our trucks from taking B20! Now it'll only take B5! What the heck?! I bought a truck that took B20, not B5.

Not like I have many fuel stations that sell B20 in my area, but I would still like to be able to use it. On a recent trip I took, I decided to try some B20, and the truck seemed to like it. No performance or mileage lost (unlike E85 in gas vehicles).

Also, can't they get fined for this in many different angles?

I'm beginning to wonder if I want to get my HPFP recall done now at this point.

 

This revelation that the recall will make B5 the highest concentration of BioDiesel is very sucks. Pretty much every station that is convenient for me sells a “B5-B20 blend”. They don’t say what it is, they just have to say it’s more than B5. Anywhere that I know of that has straight #2 is always significantly more expensive. More than you would make up with the minuscule fuel mileage gains.

 

They don’t say what it is, they just have to say it’s more than B5.

I fill up at Love's 99% of the time and use a fuel card or the Love's discount app. Love's lists the biodiesel percentage for each station on their website.

 

What concerns me is that I have a warranty on my truck, I can see them stating I ran B6-B20 and it killed XYZ component(s). That's like unsuspecting shenanigans to pull rank on owners for warranty work. Especially for those who ditch receipts from the gas station.

Luckily I don't have a lot of biodiesel stations in town, but traveling, I'd like to use B20 if possible. Just because I want to. Whole reason I wanted a newer diesel truck was not to have to worry about what B% is going into the fuel tank. This makes the EcoD not so Eco anymore...

 

What concerns me is that I have a warranty on my truck, I can see them stating I ran B6-B20 and it killed XYZ component(s). That's like unsuspecting shenanigans to pull rank on owners for warranty work. Especially for those who ditch receipts from the gas station.

The service department isn't going to know how much biodiesel is in the fuel.

Luckily I don't have a lot of biodiesel stations in town, but traveling, I'd like to use B20 if possible. Just because I want to. Whole reason I wanted a newer diesel truck was not to have to worry about what B% is going into the fuel tank. This makes the EcoD not so Eco anymore...

I'll ask GDE to see what he knows. It's very possible that B10/B15/B20 isn't going to hurt anything.

 

If b20 is no longer allowed techs are going to waste a lot of foam coffee cups doing fca fuel test aka put some fuel in a cup and see if it leaks

 

The QT station I use the most states minimum of B5 on the pump. Does the repair now mean that I can't buy fuel there since it might be over 5% from time to time?

 

From what the repair article states, you won't be able to any more. You'll really need to watch what you are putting in the tank.

@biodiesel has the luxury of having a gigantic tank that a typical owner isn't going to have or fathom the idea. While great in his case, it's not realistic for the rest of us. Especially with a warranty. I could see them using this against us for fuel system related problems down the road. No receipt, you need to pay $$$$, because that's how it works. They can write it in the repair manual as such. If new HPFP pump goes pop, "customer using wrong type of fuel". Service manager asks customer for receipts of fuel and the customer can't produce it, then warranty voided. Customer needs to pay out of pocket.

As an example... How about for those gas engine lovers... imagine if there was some recall that was done on a truck, and all of a sudden, oh, you need to use 91+ octane fuel only? No more 87. How would folks feel about that? But you bought the truck stating all over the place 87 octane is fine to use, and that is how you intended to use it, now you need to make sure you only use 91+ octane fuel. That's just horse poopy.

It's really a bait and switch tactic. I know it's not going to sit well with some people. Like I said, it doesn't bother me too much in my daily driving (mostly local; not many biodiesel blend stations), but if I do travel, the current manual states I can use up to B20, and I bought the truck to use B20, I should be allowed to use B20 for energy conservation and to save money.

 

For me it will be an issue since SC has mandated 5% minimum bio content. Not sure what the % is in NC but do know that D2 typically runs 15-20 cents higher on this side of the river. It looks like another ploy from Bosch to get out of loosing any more money in North America. With the VW issues, they were on record of saying that the US fuel quality and cetane were not good enough for their pump.

 

I don't think B10/B15/B20 is going to be an issue as long as the fuel is good ASTM quality. In other words, if you trust the fuel source, then I wouldn't hesitate running a higher concentration of biodiesel. I wouldn't go out of my way looking for B10, B15, or B20, but I don't think there's any reason to worry if that's all you can find.

 

The HPFP is available, but nothing on the tone ring yet .

Are they updating the tone ring as well? It was my understanding they just had a bad batch where the magnets weren't staying glued but any tone ring built after a certain date was good to use. Would like to know it the emergency replacement tone ring I bought might as well be used as a paper weight.

 

Would like to know it the emergency replacement tone ring I bought might as well be used as a paper weight.

The updated tone wheel may or may not last a long time. It's hard to tell. Fortunately, I have the software that keeps the truck running in the event that it fails again.

 

So what an interesting "spookatcular" Halloween! Booooo! Got my Z96 Recall notice via email today.

See attachment... of course I redacted me and my truck's info.

 

A recall with no fix for 14 months and counting, imagine that!

 

Technicians Document for the 2020-2022 DT Ram 1500 Pickup:

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2022/RCRIT-22V767-1658.pdf

 

What the heck is going on with the older trucks?
All the new shit gets fixed first ?

My 2016 the fuel pump primes for nearly 60 seconds now before starting truck. Hard starts. It used to prime in like 8-10 seconds.

I call , get told no parts.. F#ck off RAM ! I own 3 RAM trucks , and a Jeep... No help for loyal customers though.
Getting pissed off 😤

 

Sounds like a failing lift pump. These CP4's need a decent amount of fuel pressure to light off the truck in short order.

Going back to the recall at hand... I decided to call my dealer, and even though Stellantis posted this to the customers, the parts are not at the dealers. The dealer waits for a call from the customer, to decide on which campaign kit to order. If the customer has a DOA truck, it will get the full campaign kit (recalled CP4 HPFP, new lines, injectors, etc, etc). If the customer has a working truck, then they just order the CP4 HPFP campaign kit.

Currently just the CP4 HPFP campaign kit is back ordered out until early January 2024. So what Stellantics sent out was slightly misleading to the customers.

They asked me if I wanted to get my truck done, and I told them no. With a nice long pause on the phone, they asked me why not? I proceeded to tell them I'm going to wait to see how these new pumps play out first.

I think a reasonable enough answer.

 

Maybe they're fixing newer trucks first because those truck owners are more akin to buying a new truck every few years, gotta keep them the happiest. Those of us with old trucks don't buy new trucks very often, so we can wait lol.