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Regeneration of the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF)

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One other option is to get a monitoring gauge, like the Edge CS2 or CTS2 this way you see on the screen all the time the "soot %" of the filter, and you will know if a regen is coming soon, also the forced regen makes it possible for you, ""prior to starting the truck,"" to ask the truck to start a regen as soon as the engine will reach the necessary temperature, even if you haven't reached 66% soot in the filter.

when I know I'm going for a 15 minute drive, and I last turned off the engine at around 60% in the filter (DPF), my return trip would get me at around the critical 66% , on arriving at my final destination of the day, meaning I would want to get out of the truck, but the truck wants to start a regen, I am not going to go for an extra ride of 10-15 minutes. That is when I ask the truck to start a regen, when I get back home I am at +/- 10% if I ask for the forced regen.

And if you don't ask for a forced regen, and your regen actually starts on your way back home
the regen does not complete itself, you turn engine off, when you restart the engine the next time, you can see the new " %" of soot on the display and go from there.
 
If you interrupt the regen triggered at 65%, the stock tune will wait until the 80% trigger for the next regen. If the regen triggered at 80% is interrupted, the next regen will attempt at the 90% threshold and you'll get the EVIC message.
I monitor my regens closely with my Edge monitor first of all ,my monitor will have "% SOOT" go up to 65 %, sometimes a little more, like 71%, then the regen starts... the way I know it is on is; the green dot lights up on Edge screen and the % SOOT remains on the number where the regen started all the duration of the regen, when the regen is complete the green dot turns off, and only then do I see 9% on the %SOOT.

When I get to destination with the regen not complete, meaning the green dot on screen is still on, I put the truck in Park which "turns off" the regen process after a while, (( maybe 1 minute)) and let the engine idle until I see temp. Lower than 400 on the monitored EGT 1-2-3
temps, (because regens take EGTs very high), turn engine off and go in.

The next time I start the truck, I see % SOOT like 33% and it goes up to 65% and restarts again.

Uncle Buck, I have never seen what you describe, not saying this to argue with you, hate arguing, I always read your posts and I think your opinion can be trusted. I'm wondering if there are many different kinds of ECM in our truck computers, explaining the behavior of my truck compared to the one you are describing, or did you just express an hypothesis, possibility, theory?
 
I just bought a 2016 Laramie Long Horn, so i'm guessing there no way to see the soot level the way the truck comes. So what is everybody using to see the soot level. I don't do a lot of highway driving so i would like to see when it is getting high. Also is there anything that can be installed to force a regen when it is getting high/ Thanks
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Edge Insight monitors, CS2, or CTS2, both will do what you ask, and yes the 2016 are supported now.

I am not associated to Edge, I just own one, that's how I know. But there are other ways to monitor, I'll let other members who use those other ways chime in.
 
I would think that any regen would go to 80% soot level before initiating a regen. Perhaps my thinking is flawed? In any case, I have never had enough load to initiate a passive regen....
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I have an Edge monitor , ( the small one CS2 ) and I can see the regens start at 66% , never goes to 80 % ,
I have seen times when the truck only started the regen at 71% , never higher than that ,
reaching 80% will display the warning in the dash , never seen that so far
 
yeah , as said , before starting engine , you go in "diagnostic" section of the edge monitor's menu
and follow instruction , as soon as the parameters are warm enough , the regen starts
even if you have not reached 65% .
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Cool gadget , love it ...
 
it would look like this , other kinds of message too.
not mine , just some picture I got from other threads in here.
 

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Hello Tedscanoe , I have a Edge monitor , and even if you ask
the truck ( via the Edge monitor) to start a regen ,the process only starts when the truck reaches
certain temperatures before it starts the regen , and then the regen lasts around 10 minutes ,
so your " 5/6 miles at the most. " will not last long enough to get a complete regen
you might have to go a little out of your way ,when going for a forced regen.
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P.S. what is a G.O.T.:confused:
 
Oh Boy ,GOT , I should have known ...
I downloaded all seasons , and watched ALL seasons in 10 days this summer
threw out my back and coulkd barely move for 4 days , what else was there to do
for 4 days , addictive serie , after the back was better I needed the fix .
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To Tedscanoe , I got the CS2 , smaller , less expensive , still have the forced Regen option .Model 84030
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and you say " a ride once a month " , If you ever get a monitor of any kind , you will be surprised to see the soot level go up so fast ,
once a regen is complete the monitor shows 9% , then within 160 KM , you are way up there between 65% and 72% ,
which is where I have seen regens start by themselves .
Every time your truck goes to regen mode , you can smell burnt paint smell , you probably have smelled that in the past , you were in a regen.
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you already know about the CTS2 , so here are photos of a CS2.
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well the site will not let me add images
have another site about my motorcycle that is acting up right now too , must be some server glitch.
 
good stuff eagle11401 , this is different from what I see on my Edge monitor ,
what device do you use to monitor your soot % , and EGT temps ?
 
I have the service electronic throttle light on with 4 codes and service light on. wondering how far i can go when my dpf says 100%. Im at %80 now and not going to dealership for another few days. I dont have one in town. I cant find anywhere how long you can go when it is full.
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my estimate is : you will be Lucky to get 20 miles away , then tow truck to dealer .
 
what year is your truck bigred , because the Edge monitor does not work on 2017 and 2018 , different software in the ecm
and EDGE is in no rush to make their monitor compatible , On 2014 2015 2016 the monitors work well .
 
bigredaggie , my edge monitor counts soot level , around 66% , it will start a regen , "" if the right températures are reached ""
if too cold it can go up to 72% before finally triggering the regen , then I see the EGT temperature start to climb , same as you are seeing on your device ,
the only added item is a green "R" dot on the monitor that turns ON , level numbers stay the same during the whole regen , and change
to 9% when the regen is complete , and green dot turns OFF .
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you have same ability to see regular regens with your device , just a different display
for you 9% to 100 % , that goes up quick , then EGT climb = REGEN .,, back to 9% = regen complete

pictures ( blurry sorry ) of 2 screens of the EDGE CS 2 , soot level on one display , and EGTs on other display.
 

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here are a few pictures I took today ,
Stuck in traffic , never got above 30MPH , mostly 0MPH to 10MPH , red light every 1/8 mile
still took only 14 minutes to see 8% .
the EGT temps are at a complete stop on a red light , still went thru the motions and completed .
when I was able to move and hit " 10 MPH" , the EGT 1 and 2 went up to 700 F.
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you can see the green dot in shape of an "R" .
so no highway necessary , and no forcing truck to stay in a lower gear .
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for people who get the message at 80% , your problem is not city driving , it is the truck not getting up to temperature to allow
a regen to be performed , just too many short uses of the truck , one after the other , because the regen will not start when engine is cold .
 

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I don't get the stock tune logic. Over the weekend I had two interrupted regens and despite two hours of highway driving I still need a regen.
What factors induce a regen, how can we help the vehicle out?
if your last interrupted regen took you to 40% soot , 2 hours of highway driving you mention is the slowest way to get the soot % up .
you may just have taken it up to 65% ....soon the fun begins , but only at 66% .
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the fastest way ==> when starting cold engine produces more soot , will make the soot % go up fast .
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you mention 15 minute highway jogs between cities , if you turn off the truck when you reach destination , it may take 10 minutes
for your truck to get up to temp on the next use , it will not start a regen until the truck is up to operating temps.
so when you do start your regen , you are 5 minutes from your destination, not enough time to complete , so you are maybe at 40% soot when
interrupting the regen . now the truck will wait for the 66% soot level to be reached , it never tries to finish the last interrupted regen , never .
you need to get to 66% for the truck to even consider starting a regen , and then , only if the necessary parameter to start regen are present.
 
all apps and monitors get their feed from the truck's computer , so it is the same for everybody
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(( exept for the mysterious blue driver going to 100% instead of 66% before triggering regen
I see in bigredaggie's image , they call it " Normalised trigger for DPF regen " , so the truck's 66% being the trigger , blue driver gives you the same 9% to 66% ,
but in another display , I guess it goes up even faster between % s .))
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during regen , we do not see the soot % go down , only when the regen is completed , then we see 8% or 9% ,
for the duration of the regen , the soot % displayed is the number it was at when the regen started.
if you arrive at destination and still see the big number , it was not completed yet and exhaust component are HOT-HOT....
soon as you put the shifter in PARK , you abort the regen .
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For khigh : how is your coolant level , do you have to add coolant all the time ,
look at B-g-K 's posts in this thead , around post # 19 ,: https://www.ram1500diesel.com/forum/ram-1500-diesel-mechanical/49898-2016-losing-coolant.html
his coolant loss from the EGR collected in the DPF and it was a mess , he could see the coolant becomes like pink wax when heated up and clog the DPF
he was doing a full delete when he opened the DPF .
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on another note , does your dealer know that the regen will not start if there is certain kinds of " CEL " on the dash .
 
navman47** , no stock truck gives information on state of the DPF
unless you are approching critical level of 80% soot level in your DPF , you will never know
anything , why bother you if everything is fine ?? who needs 50 dash gauges ???
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some of us are just more curious than others and get a " monitor " to see all the parameters that
the truck's computer uses to make its decision .
I personnally have a Edge monitor CS2 ,( tiny, need glasses to see it ) , some have the CTS2 , **they don't work for 2017 2018 , you're OK with 2016
Edge monitors are expensive ,$300 to $500 if in Canada , ouch .
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If you have an old smart phone in a drawer somewhere
you can buy a dongle that you stick in your OBDII port just above your knee Under the steering Wheel , and that dongle will
communicate with an app you put in that old phone (( or actual phone )) called Torque Pro App ,
here is the thread to help you work the torque pro app : https://www.ram1500diesel.com/forum...sel.com/forum/ram-1500-diesel-tuning/1582-[official]-torque-pro-app-thread.html

a couple of images of different screens people chose for the torque pro app ,first 3
and edge monitors CTS2 and CS2 last 2 images .
 

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