[smoky]

I've replaced the suspension on several Jeeps so one of the first things I looked at when I got my '14 Ram was the factory air suspension - and I was bummed. Unless I'm not looking at things correctly the reality is the "springs and shocks" are actually one unit. There is no shock separate from the 'spring' since the spring is actually the air lift bag - and the shock is integral to the system.

I'm at 62,000 miles and there is some wheel hop that a good or new shock would prevent - I'd like to add a good set of Bilsteins but I'm pretty sure those of us with factory air suspension will have to replace the air suspension units and are subject to Mopar's pricing

Bob

I have had wheel hop since the day I picked it up and now 104K miles later and still the same wheel hop. I just let er buck and bounce, I just figured that was part of the Longhorn package.

 

[Kaliman198117]

Hey so will this shocks work with a stock air suspension truck or just for lifted trucks. Reason for my question is because the description on Amazon is talking about 1 Inc lift

 

[Brokedownbutgood]

Hey so will this shocks work with a stock air suspension truck or just for lifted trucks. Reason for my question is because the description on Amazon is talking about 1 Inc lift

Which shocks are you referring too?

 

[Kaliman198117]

The belstein 5100 series for the rear. I think for stock air suspension you may need the 4600 series.

 

[Kaliman198117]

Hey so will this shocks work with a stock air suspension truck or just for lifted trucks. Reason for my question is because the description on Amazon is talking about 1 Inc lift

 

[Brokedownbutgood]

Bilstein 5100 series shocks are designed for trucks with up to 1 inch of lift on the rear they work well at stock height as well. Amazon is a horrible source of information when it comes to automotive.

 

[shawclan5]

Has anyone replaced these shocks yet? How would we know when they need to be replaced?

Have wondered same...161k and OEM...long time Bilstein 5100 user on my X. My dad rode in it at 158k and did not notice any difference to hi 2015 ED w/ 55k.

Perhaps a Mod could alert Vern to this question...he would know with 430k+...however neither my dad or I have air suspension so could be apples v. oranges IDK...

 

[VernDiesel]

Amazingly to me I still have the original shocks on the truck (non air ride) No noticeable degradation. When I was a kid almost everybody’s shocks wore out by a 100k sometimes a lot sooner. You could push up & down on the hood or stand on the bumper and do it then jump off and instead of immediately stopping it would wave at you a bit until it stopped. And that was confirmation that your shocks were shot and the car would ride and handle rough road etc much better again if replaced.

Shawclan5 you can always PM me. If my shocks do go bad I’ll get the Bilsteins.

 

[kingpin98]

Just random observation on shocks over the years, shocks do wear more than most realize because the shocks fade out slowly so we don't really notice them until they are really bad. Just my experience with bikes, snowmobiles, cars and trucks.

 

[Kaliman198117]

So I replaced my rear shocks today and I'm so happy with the results. Here is a link to view my work . Please feel free to share the video. It's not a step by step is only to show you guys that even with air suspension you can install regular after market shocks here is the link https://youtu.be/kw6qIVpmtlY

 

[Bat Koce]

Hi Kaliman198117 is your truck 4X4 and what trim is it?

 

[Bat Koce]

Does anyone have an old rear shock for an air suspension? I would like to find out what is the length and the travel of the original shock absorber. The length measured from eye to eye center.

Thanks

 

[TMorgan]

I replaced the original rear shocks on my 14 EcoD w/air suspension last year with Monroe Reflex shocks. At the time they where the only ones listed to be a correct fit. I wanted the Bilstien 5100's because I've had them on past Rams with coil springs and thought them to be a perfect mix of ride and bounce control.
I did lots of research trying to find why the 5100's weren't listed as a correct fit and the only reason I came up with is the extended length is about 2" more then the originals which are about 23.4 extended and 16.45 compressed.
As some have mentioned, they have installed the 5100's and like them. My only concern is when the truck is picked up on a shop lift and the suspension hangs down, will it damage the rear air springs because the shocks allow 2" more extension.
I'm not real happy with my current Monroe shocks and plan to put on the 5100's and also installing a set of limit straps to keep the air springs from over extending when on a lift.
Generally I love the air suspension except on the bigger bumps.The Monroe's just seem to give up and let the truck bottom out on the abrupt dips or heaves that come with winter roads even worse then the original shocks. It's better in "off road one" but limiting the speed to under 45 sucks.
Have any that have installed the Bilistien 5100's ran into any problems with the longer extension length or am I over thinking this ?
I've had to have my front air springs replaced twice due to leaking at only 42k miles.Thankfully they were covered by the extended warranty I bought and am reluctant to give any reason to void future suspension problems from being covered.

 

[El Jefe]

No issues with the 5100 at all. And it’s been a while since I had them side by side with the factory shocks but I recall them being the same length.

 

[TMorgan]

I got a set of the 5100's and did some actual comparision's with my stock air susp. shocks.The extended length of the 5100's is almost 2" longer(26-3/4) then the stock ones. As I feared, with the stock shock disconnected at the bottom, the axle can drop and hang by the air springs,over extended them. I can't believe this could be good when on a lift. I'm ether going to install some limit straps or maybe shorten the 5100 shocks by 2". The frost heaves are torturous this year.

 

[WiscRam]

I'm am also looking to upgrade the rear shocks on my 1500 with air suspension. Does any one know the difference between the Bilstein rear shocks included as factory equipment on the Rebel/ Off Road package and Bilstein 4600's listed as OEM replacements for trucks with coil suspension? Here's the part numbers and approximate pricing:

-RAM Rebel (w/ air) factory Bilstein's, Mopar p/# 68232278AC, $230ea
-Bilstein 4600 for coil suspension, 24-187350, $80ea (Bilstein says these shocks are not for trucks with air suspension)

I'd prefer the Bilstein 4600 due to cost savings but I also don't want to damage the air suspension. Any/ all advice or personal experience is appreciated!

 

[Kalyphus]

I am looking at replacing my shocks on the truck we just got. The 2016 1500 with air suspension isn't that great for Canadian winters from what I hear. Trying to decide if I want to keep the air and just change the rear shocks. This post was interesting because I didn't realize that the front bags were integrated with the shock.

Looking forward to more responses, I love doing research prior to making a decision.

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[StrokerAce]

Arnott Industries have a very good set up. I have a 2005 Denali with Air Suspension I had the factory one replace 5-6 years ago and still works perfect.

https://www.arnottindustries.com/amfinder/?find=ram-1500-ds-w-air-suspension-2015-233733

 

[elinventorcito]

I replaced my factory rear shocks (air suspension) with Bilstein 5100 (24-187374) and the improvement was significant. i replaced them because one of my shocks was leaking and I felt my ride was a little bouncy (not enough dampening) and the Bilstein 5100 are well worth the small amount of money they cost. If you're doing this, quick tip, remove your fender liners and the job is super easy.

are those shock long enough to reach air ride 2? or low enough to go to 1

 

[elinventorcito]

I am looking at replacing my shocks on the truck we just got. The 2016 1500 with air suspension isn't that great for Canadian winters from what I hear. Trying to decide if I want to keep the air and just change the rear shocks. This post was interesting because I didn't realize that the front bags were integrated with the shock.

Looking forward to more responses, I love doing research prior to making a decision.

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insulate the air compressor well