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My truck loses about 5-6 mpg when regenerating. So say it takes 20 miles to regen at highway speed 30 mpg vs. 24 mpg for twenty miles is less than half a gallon. This would be driving at a steady 60-65 mph. Obviously lower speed or stop and go while regenerating would probably use a bit more fuel. Just my guess.
 
Hi: All... Never knowingly had one. Never had a message on the EVIC about one. Done a lot of towing and try to get the truck up to opt. temps when out with it. Mileage is always good to excellent.
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Without a gauge as long as you're not doing only short trips you can go forever without seeing or knowing about a regen. If you watch instantaneous mileage you might see it but you wont watching the trip meter.
My Gen 2 would regen every 125-175 miles and my Gen 3 is averaging 550 miles.
 
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With all the short trips the last year, I got my first warning message this last week. 80 or 85% full. set the tranny to stay in 6th and ran it on the interstate for about 10 miles at 70-80 mph with RPM around 3000. When the message disappeared, we went for pizza. At 46,000 miles, this was the first time I've had the message and only the second time that I have noticed it being in regen.

I blame my sil a little. They borrowed the trcuk a few weeks back and his tank was my worst mileage ever. Only gave me 17 mpg. So it was either where he bought fuel or they let the truck sit and idle too much. I won't complain to them since she's at the hospital today for the arrival of my second granddaughter.
 
There are some weeks, I don't have long drives or driving with a load, Is there a way I can initiate an active regen on my own when the timing is right so it doesn't turn on when I'm just on a 10 minute drive? Thanks, boys (and girls).
I see you have a 2017 from your Avatar name ,,, 2017 and newer were not supported by Edge monitor ,
( at last news I got , maybe that is changed ),
because with for 2014 to 2016 models you can start a regen by using the edge monitors .
just click diagnostic button on monitor and find the mobile regen trigger .
Active regen on demand = never heard of a way ..:confused:

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if you don't already have the Torque Pro app , you could get that and know all the time at what % of soot your DPF is .
many different looks to customise the app.
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There are some weeks, I don't have long drives or driving with a load, Is there a way I can initiate an active regen on my own when the timing is right so it doesn't turn on when I'm just on a 10 minute drive? Thanks, boys (and girls).
You can with AlfaOBD, you'll need an Android phone/tablet and preferably a OBDLInk MX+
With AlfaOBD you'll connect to the
Diesel Bosch EDC17C49 and then:
'DPF Regeneration Enabling' performs a moving regen during next drive cycle(you'll need to turn he truck off and open the door).

There is also:
'Particulate Filter Regeneration' performs a parked regen when coolant is over 140f
It's more if your unable to resolve the DPF problem while driving.
 
Doesn’t this sound like a great way for them to push the truck outside for a while and forgettaboutit all the while biking some other sucker fir the same time...


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Hi: Henfield... Old post... but in the olden days in the biz, we called it "The sunshine treatment"!!!
Dieseldragon North shore of Lake Erie.
 
Regeneration of the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF)

Here's some basic information concerning the self cleaning (regeneration) of the Diesel Particulate Filter:

Active = fuel is injected into the exhaust stroke strictly for the purpose of increasing exhaust gas temperatures (EGT's) in order to get to the temperature necessary to burn the soot out of the diesel particulate filter (DPF).

Your truck will regenerate (active) when the DPF soot level reaches 65%. This will likely occur every 100-300 miles. You will only see the notice on the EVIC if the soot level reaches 80-90% due to uncompleted regens.

Active self-regeneration occurs when there is not sufficient heat in the exhaust to convert all the carbon being collected in the DPF. Exhaust temperatures are raised by injecting a small amount of fuel upstream of the Diesel Particulate Filter.

The resulting chemical reaction over the DOC raises exhaust gas temperatures high enough to oxidize the carbon from the filter. This is all done without any operator intervention.

Passive = the engine is working hard enough under its own power that the EGT's are hot enough to keep the regeneration of the DPF in process, there is no extra fuel burned as it is not necessary.

Based on my observations, you will not see EGT’s hot enough for passive regeneration at unloaded highway speeds. The EGT’s are actually quite low when cruising on the highway unless you are towing a heavy load, are carrying a full payload, or driving hard.

From forum member Patty:

The truck's programming will make many repeated attempts to regenerate the DPF, from a high soot mass level of 65% down to <10% when a cycle is complete. If your trip is too short and the engine is then shut off, or the truck is put in park with the engine idling, an active regeneration process stops (at whatever soot level the DPF is at). The next drive cycle when the DPF again reaches 65% soot mass the whole process starts all over again. If you are going on a road trip the complete cycle will happen many times over... up to 65%... regen... down to <10%... over and over again.

The following information from the Owners Manual:

EVIC Messages


Your vehicle has the ability to alert you to additional maintenance required on your vehicle or engine. Refer to the following messages that may be displayed on your Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC):

• Exhaust Filter XX% Full Safely Drive at Highway Speeds to Remedy — This message will be displayed on the Electronic Vehicle Information Center (EVIC) if the exhaust particulate filter reaches 80% of its maximum storage capacity. Under conditions of exclusive
short duration and low speed driving cycles, your diesel engine and exhaust after-treatment system may never reach the conditions required to cleanse the filter to remove the trapped PM. If this occurs, the “Exhaust Filter XX% Full Safely Drive at Highway Speeds to Remedy” message will be displayed in the EVIC. If this message is displayed, you will hear one chime to assist in alerting you of this condition.

By simply driving your vehicle at highway speeds for up to 20 minutes, you can remedy the condition in the particulate filter system and allow your diesel engine and exhaust after-treatment system to cleanse the filter to remove the trapped PM and restore the system to
normal operating condition.

• Exhaust System — Regeneration In Process Exhaust
Filter XX% Full
— This message indicates that the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) is self-cleaning. Maintain your current driving condition until regeneration is completed.

• Exhaust System — Regeneration Completed — This message indicates that the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) self-cleaning is completed. If this message is displayed, you will hear one chime to assist in alerting you of this condition.

• Exhaust Service Required — See Dealer Now — This messages indicates regeneration has been disabled due to a system malfunction. At this point the engine Powertrain Control Module (PCM) will register a fault code, the instrument panel will display a MIL light.

• Exhaust Filter Full — Power Reduced See Dealer — This message indicates the PCM has derated the engine to limit the likelihood of permanent damage to the after-treatment system. If this condition is not corrected and a dealer service is not performed, extensive
exhaust after-treatment damage can occur. To correct this condition it will be necessary to have your vehicle serviced by your local authorized dealer.

CAUTION!

See your authorized dealer, as damage to the exhaust system could occur soon with continued operation.

Soot Loading Strategy (Quoted from Forum Sponsor GDE)

The ECU runs two different strategies in parallel and takes the higher of the two outputs to determine the current soot loading:

Strategy 1 is a simulated value, and is calculated according to how complete the previous regeneration was, and how the engine/vehicle has been operating since then (engine speed, load, ambient conditions, exhaust temps, etc). Different OEMs design different variations of such a strategy, but for the most part the high level concepts are similar. The strategy employed by the Ram's stock tune is fairly rudimentary.

Strategy 2 is a physically measured value calculated off of measured pressure drop across the DPF, the DPF temperature, and the known flow rate of exhaust gasses.

The soot loading is used to trigger the regeneration when all the correct criteria are met.

Just as a note for some more info...

Passive regens happen when there is sufficient exhaust temperature and a favorable NO2/NOx ratio for the soot to burn. This phenomena will happen starting with exhaust temps in the 380-400°C range.

However... the stock tunes are not capable to detect that passive regeneration is taking place, and to thus slow the modeled accumulation of soot and/or decrease it if the burn rate exceeds the production rate. This is why the intervals are not improved more in the highway cycles.

...we fixed this with our tunes, in order to avoid regenerating when it's not necessary.
Yeah, so all that said... Delete that crap out of your truck. It's going to kill the engine and keep you from being able to use your vehicle well.
 
Yeah, so all that said... Delete that crap out of your truck. It's going to kill the engine and keep you from being able to use your vehicle well.
That said, most of us can't delete because we have yearly inspections.
 
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My truck did a regen at 700 miles or so, and by 1,200 the filter was full and it went into limp mode so I limped it to the dealer. They did a software update and a regen. Since then if I do all town driving, which involves a lot of shorter trips up to 5 or 10 miles at the most, and many only 1 or 2 miles, it will regen every 50 to 75 miles. Incredibly frustrating. If I had known that this truck cannot operate strictly as a city truck, I would never have bought it.

The biggest annoyance is that I will start the truck, with no prior warnings the info screen will say "filter 70% full, drive at highway speed to remedy" and then within a minute or two it's at 90%, and I'm forced to drive 8 miles out and back into town for it to regenerate. Not exactly convenient. The dealer says this is normal with the ecodiesels. It's the only thing that I dislike about the truck. The time it went limp I had less than 2 miles from initial warning to limp mode.
I've had similar issues. My first fix was to buy and android throwaway smart phone, buy the AlphaOBD app and get the OBDLink MX+ scanner. I was able to force my own stationary regen without taking it to the dealer. Unfortunately, theres a lot of messing with clearing codes and stuff that you can mess up your trucks computer with.
On top of a poorly operating regen system, all of a sudden my DEF sensor went bad. Truck wouldn't start, dealer said the sensor was in the tank and the entire tank had to be replaced. They wanted $3,600 + tax to replace the tank. This was just to get my truck to turn on again.
I opted to pay $2,600 and delete the entire EGR system out of my truck. I LOVE MY TRUCK NOW. More horsepower, better MPG, better oil life. I accidentally peeled my tires in 2nd gear because I had been so used to the sluggish accelerator pedal response. And guess what? Now I will never even see the stupid filter regen crap or DEF crap on my screen again. Best decision ever.
 
That said, most of us can't delete because we have yearly inspections.
I suppose if you live in an area where you suffer from yearly EPA emissions tests, that would stink. I would say move or get rid of the EcoDiesel and go with a Ford. At least I haven't heard from as many Ford owners about how the EGR is destroying their ability to daily drive their trucks.
 
I suppose if you live in an area where you suffer from yearly EPA emissions tests, that would stink. I would say move or get rid of the EcoDiesel and go with a Ford. At least I haven't heard from as many Ford owners about how the EGR is destroying their ability to daily drive their trucks.
My 2020 is flawless and has great performance. I'm happy with it. My 2015 was flawless until the EPA recall, after which I bought the 2020.
Based on my experience and I sometimes do a complete tank or two with short, in-and-around-town trips and others mixed, and some towing, since 2015 I only once got the 80% warning (on my 2015), I would wager that those folks who have regen issues will have them with any truck because there is something particular to where and how they drive that is causing that. The majority of EcoD drivers don't even know what a Regen is. By the way, Regeen on a Gen 3 is between 500-700 miles.... way longer than the Gen 2.
 
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My 2020 is flawless and has great performance. I'm happy with it. My 2015 was flawless until the EPA recall, after which I bought the 2020.
Based on my experience and I sometimes do a complete tank or two with short, in-and-around-town trips and others mixed, and some towing, since 2015 I only once got the 80% warning (on my 2015), I would wager that those folks who have regen issues will have them with any truck because there is something particular to where and how they drive that is causing that. The majority of EcoD drivers don't even know what a Regen is. By the way, Regeen on a Gen 3 is between 500-700 miles.... way longer than the Gen 2.
Hi: bill-e... IMHO there is nothing "Flawless" in this world. My full stock '16 Laramie Longhorn is close... but no cigar.
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